How much protein is REALLY needed for layers?

Unfortunately the Poulin grower feed is only 15% - it's a grower/finisher feed. So I don't think that'll work. Our local market has one other brand (I don't know what it is) that's organic (so it costs more)... I'll at least price it out and grab the ingredient/analysis of what they offer. Maybe a few bucks is no big deal if they have the right product?

Ostensibly, the grower feed is lower in protein in order to slow down sexual maturity in pullets so they are slower to come into lay and hopefully, avoid some reproductive issues that plague hens, especially hatchery hens, in my experience. It is to be fed in a defined period, after you stop the starter and before they lay, though I've never used grower.

I feed 22% layer to my heritage line birds from breeders, which tend to be much larger birds than hatchery birds. It was recommended that they have a higher protein level. All chicks get 18% starter/grower until laying age, no grower around here unless I buy at TSC, which I avoid for the most part.

My "scratch" is actually a 13 grain cock conditioner which has 16% protein on its own, but anything they get other than layer will lower the overall protein content unless it in itself is high protein like mealworms or eggs, etc.
 
Ostensibly, the grower feed is lower in protein in order to slow down sexual maturity in pullets so they are slower to come into lay and hopefully, avoid some reproductive issues that plague hens, especially hatchery hens, in my experience. It is to be fed in a defined period, after you stop the starter and before they lay, though I've never used grower.
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What you describe is exactly the approach we used. We have had nothing but perfect eggs from each girl from each of their very first eggs. Though they did take a lot longer until they started laying that many people report (they youngest was 6 months, the oldest at 8 months)... though our early, cold winter may have had something to do with that.

Thank you for the further information! I don't have easy access to higher quality feeds, but I'll keep exploring my options and trying to find ways to improve them. I understand your avoidance of TSC. Sometimes it's been necessary, but I'm really trying to source everything as small-scale and local/regional as I can. The most readily available feed around here is cheap, certified organic... it's at every shop and hardware store... and it's owned and produced by Cargill. Um... no thank you.
 
The most readily available feed around here is cheap, certified organic... it's at every shop and hardware store... and it's owned and produced by Cargill. Um... no thank you.

Oh, Cargill, the smell! I used to live quite close to the Cargill plant in Dayton, Ohio. Some days, the air was thick with a smell like you had your head down in a bag of dog food, yuck! I lived there for almost 12 years, stationed at Wright-Patterson.
 
Oh, Cargill, the smell! I used to live quite close to the Cargill plant in Dayton, Ohio. Some days, the air was thick with a smell like you had your head down in a bag of dog food, yuck! I lived there for almost 12 years, stationed at Wright-Patterson.

Oh my, that sounds awful! I'm so glad you managed to get away! Hopefully to fresh air :D :wee
 
Oh my, that sounds awful! I'm so glad you managed to get away! Hopefully to fresh air :D :wee


Oh, yeah, last assignment was Utah, actually, the second time we'd been assigned there, ,loved the scenery. And back to GA, for awhile in the suburbs and now, in the fresh air of the North Georgia mountains! BIG BREATH!
 
It sounds like you want to use/blend your own feed. If not, Nutrena has a 21% Egg Producer. I currently have it on special order at my local hardware store.

I can't comment about scratch, only because I use it, but I blend my own. I like millet because it has 16mg of calcium per cup. I do 1/3 scratch to 2/3 feed each day. My gals are cooped trained, so it's an evening snack. I will say that my pullets hatched in late August started laying in January and we had temps in the negatives. I neve found a soft shell and I attribute that to the millet addition.

Back to your original question, I've heard that offering higher protein means less feed is consumed, this is why Nutrena offers a concentrated feed for free range chickens. However, you can also up protein and contribute to egg yolk color by offering alfalfa chaff. Excellent quality 3-5 cut Alfalfa could provide up to 25% percent protein. Since pasture is dismal this time in year, I picked up a couple of square bales of Alfalfa. I put one flake in the corner of the coop each week. Interestingly, egg size has increased. It made me curious enough to do additional research. I've attached a screen shot from an article in a book I was viewing.

Good luck!
 

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It sounds like you want to use/blend your own feed. If not, Nutrena has a 21% Egg Producer. I currently have it on special order at my local hardware store.

...Back to your original question, I've heard that offering higher protein means less feed is consumed, this is why Nutrena offers a concentrated feed for free range chickens. However, you can also up protein and contribute to egg yolk color by offering alfalfa chaff. Excellent quality 3-5 cut Alfalfa could provide up to 25% percent protein. Since pasture is dismal this time in year, I picked up a couple of square bales of Alfalfa. I put one flake in the corner of the coop each week. Interestingly, egg size has increased. It made me curious enough to do additional research. I've attached a screen shot from an article in a book I was viewing.

Good luck!

Sorry for the late reply. Thank you for the suggestions! I'll definitely read up more on alfalfa. I'm hoping to begin growing it in the spring of 2019. As I up my field productions and look to grow more of my own feed, this will definitely be a part of it!

For posterity: Locally the feed choices I have are limited. The easy choice is what I've been using Poulin Grain Layer pellets. They are a 16.5% protein conventional feed at $13/50lb. The only other obvious choice I have is Green Mountain. It's certified organic and non-GMO, but it is only 17% protein and costs TWICE as much. Poulin does make a soy-free 18% layer feed, but I don't know if it's available locally.

Nutrena is Cargill and I refuse to do direct business with companies like that and Monsanto for ideological reasons. Obviously the Poulin products likely are (at least partially) made from grain that was produced using Cargill/Monsanto/etc chemicals and seeds. But I have hungry chickens and I have to start somewhere...

This is the main reason I want to produce my own chicken food!
 
Tomorrow I will dig out a recipe a local mill gave me for chicken feed. I didn't buy from them due to questionable expiration dates on other feeds in stock, but that said customers have raved about their own blend. I'll be sure to share the tag tomorrow.
 

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