How/when to integrate mother and chicks to the rest of the flock?

lhbisbee

Chirping
6 Years
Jan 8, 2014
35
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Leicester, Vermont
Hello--
First off, I just want to say I really appreciate this site. Everything I've learned about raising our chickens I have read in books or read here! Thanks.

I have a Blue Maran hen who is hatching as I write this. She had one chick yesterday afternoon and two last night; she's still sitting on 4 eggs and won't leave them--so we're waiting. She successfully hatched four chicks this past summer and she's had absolutely no problems.

The difference this time is that in August when she and another Maran were raising chicks, we did have them separated from the flock, but not completely. We have one rooster (now we have two--the first one's son as well) and 12 hens. They free range, but go into the barn in their coop to roost at night. However, we're in Vermont, so there are many days that they choose not to go outside. So, in August, we had Skye and Fiona in an outside coop with outside runs separated from each other, but next to each other. Every day the rooster would come down and talk to the hens and help feed the chicks. The hens all came down as well--so throughout the raising, all of the hens and rooster were aware of the baby chicks. When the chicks were bigger--I'm thinking around 12 weeks, we reintegrated them back into the flock and just put them back in the barn with the rest of the flock. We didn't do anything special. The mamas continued to "train" their chicks until they taught them to fly up to the roosting bar---and then we saw the whole "I'm your mother, but leave me alone thing" going on. The chicks then were old enough, apparently, to take care of themselves and they were part of the flock. No problems.

However, when Skye went broody again, it was March. We decided to let her keep eggs because spring was coming and we had kept the new rooster and wanted to have more hens so there wouldn't be any fights with his dad---so far, he respects Dad and stays aways from his hens--only mating with the ones he was born with. So, then, we had a blizzard and really cold temperatures and didn't want to leave Skye in the barn. She came inside the house and sat on her eggs inside a dog kennel--very happy and no problems. She even lets the cats and dogs come and look at her. We take her outside once a day for her horrendous poop.

So, okay--she started hatching last night. It snowed again last night. We were planning on keeping she and the babies in the house (in a bigger area, of course) until it is warmer. But, now---I just want to know if we can put her and the chicks in the coop with the rest of the flock? Could we put her dog kennel (which is her nest) with her chicks in the coop? I have read conflicting things about putting very small babies with the rest of the flock--some say it's fine, some not. Please help me if you're an experienced chick raiser and let me know what you suggest. As I said, in the summer, having the hens and rooster all see the mothers and chicks through the runs outside seemed to work with no problem at all, but we didn't put them in the coop until they were about 12 weeks. I don't think we can keep them in the house that long.

Thanks in advance for your help. Posting a picture of the first chick hatched last night and our rooster's son who hatched on August 28, 2013.

 
Thanks for the reply. I read the posts you sited. I understand all that's said--and this hen is a proven good mama. I guess my question now is---most of the posts I read said the person had the broody hen in with the flock while she sat on her eggs. However, as I said, we put Skye in the house because it was so bitterly cold. So--should I put her and her "kennel" nest with the babies on the floor in the coop after they're all hatched? Wait a few days---or what?
 
The kennel is the best route for reintroducing everyone. One concern though, I'm not sure where you're at, but if its still cold there moving the hen from the house to the coop might be a shock for her (and her chicks). A heat lamp would probably make them more comfortable while they're adjusting. Good luck.
 
Judy I don't think that's the post you meant to link to. You might want to check. That one is more for hatching than the OP’s situation.

I agree. Moving that kennel in there is a really good idea. Make sure the chicks can’t get out to where Mama cannot protect them. I don’t know how big the openings are on your specific kennel. After three or four days the chicks will be extremely mobile and strongly bonded to Mama. When you let them out of the kennel, lock that door open so it doesn’t accidentally shut. Mama will probably take them back in there at night.

Please do not use a heat lamp. They are a fire danger. The chickens don’t need it. Mama has a built-in heater that never suffers a power failure. It’s hard on a chicken going from a heated coop into the cold outdoors, not just the chicks but the other adults.

It is harder for a hen to raise chicks in the winter than the summer. To me the real risk is when a chick gets trapped and separated from Mama. If it can’t get to Mama or Mama can’t get to it, it is in real danger from the cold where in summer it will probably be OK. A heat lamp won’t help this. If it can get to the heat lamp it can get to Mama.
 
Haha, I'm glad you came along and answered the questions, Ridgerunner! I confess, sometimes I need to read things more carefully.
 
Thanks so much for advice! I had thought about the fact that she has been inside and will be transitioning to the cold barn again. I didn't want to use a heat lamp-- for fire hazzard reasons as you said stated and it's just not good for our Vermont chickens to get used to a heat lamp in the barn. So--it's starting to get warmer-36 yesterday and that's fifty degrees warmer than it's been. Just don't want to put them out there too soon. Will remember about keeping door open--good suggestion!!!

Anything else? I know winter is not good hatching time; we just honestly didn't think we'd still be at this point!! Spring must be coming though- our Katahdin sheep are losing their hair!
 
Oh-- and Ridgerunner- we didn't use a heat lamp in the house either for reasons you stated. When I pick Skye up to put her outside to poop, she practically burns my hand!!! Haha
 
I don't know what your last freeze date is in Vermont. Mine's the middle of April but last year we had snow accumulation on May 1st. Really messes with getting a garden started.

It may not make you feel any better, but I have some three week olds in a brooder in my unheated coop. The brooder does have a heat lamp, two actually for the really cold nights, but they went through a few nights where the outside overnight lows were in the lower single digits Fahrenheit before they were a week old. I do use heat lamps very carefully but I have to. The brooder floor is wire, partly to cut down on fire danger. With your broody you don't need to. She'll take care of them.
 







I really appreciated all the tips and comments. My Maran hen came through like a champ--even though we still have cold weather here in Vermont. She ended up with 8 chicks--kept them in the house for a while and then in a small outdoor coop (we use for the chick hospital) and our back yard for a couple weeks. At five weeks, we put them in a second coop in the barn. Skye immediately laid an egg and decided she'd had enough of the brood and has rejoined her flock with free ranging. Last summer, she didn't let the chicks go until they were 10 weeks old! Do you think it was because there were 8 of them? she got tired? We did get some cold temps--heck--it's still cold--but, you all were right. She kept them warm--all 8.
 

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