I am not sure I want to get a permit. Help please!

If you're going to do it, do it legitimately. That way, they have to try hard to bust you (say, if a neighbor complains about neglect or something [not that you would, but neighbors can suck sometimes])
Not to mention there will be peace of mind from thoughts like 'omg, will they catch me? Is that a game patroller? ... Will I lose my friends?"
 
Well, let's look at this objectively:

*what are the penalties for keeping these birds without a permit?
*how many eggs do you get a day/week?
*what can you sell the eggs for?
*how long will the hens keep laying, or will you hatch more stock?
 
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No they dont. I just inquired about getting some. I never said anything about already owning them.

They know who you are. Are you willing to gamble this won't ever be used against you?
 
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They are laying 4 eggs each day. I have four hens and three males

I can sell the eggs for hatching or eating.

The hens arent very old. maybe 6 months or so.

I really want to get one but I dont at the same time. I know that if I get caught, I would get in trouble but the permit is soo expensive for me. I guess what I could do is just eat their eggs and sell only Coturnix eggs. Then just save up all the money I get from them and buy the permit. I already have a order in for a few dozen in the next few weeks.

Ahhhh I am soo frustrated!
Cody!!
 
What I mean is, how much money can you sell the eggs for? How long would it take for you to recoup your costs on the permit by selling eggs and are your hens young enough to be able to be laying consistently for that time period?
 
one other thing to remember, is some states they may require you to have proof/receipt of were you got your actual starter birds and or eggs from.

some may even require you to buy from in state supplier's only.. i know Pa does in most cases, unless they are from an approved source out of state by the PGC..

fee's here in Pa are $25 for the first species on the permit and then an additional $10 for each extra species added to the permit, this is a yearly fee ever year.

so for me to have bobwhite, wild turkey and pheasants it cost $45.00 each and every year, no charge for there yearly inspections..

~Wilds~
 
I have a small group of 10 Bobwhites myself and I really like them. I had more, but I gave some to a friend. However, I didn't find out til after I hatched them, that I couldn't sell them or their eggs without the permit. I doubt I will bother getting one.

I think its legal to buy, keep and raise them here, just not sell them or their eggs. You are only supposed to release them if you have a valid hunting license, if I understand the laws right. Providing they survive til then, I will probably keep my original group as pets/breeders and then raise up some future babies to eat.
 
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I would just get the permit. If anything did happen and the state found out.... say you sold to someone who had a permit and the state asked them where they got their eggs... friend of friend asks someone and they happen to be a state family... etc. too many ways to have something happen but now that they have mailed you a permit they may have your address on file. You couldn't claim you didn't know anymore. It would be willful disreguard at that point... I bet the fees are far more than $45 to get caught.
 
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Nope it's more thana hunting license needed for releasing them here in pa. And sadly you just giving some to your friend is illegal too you are not allowed to give sell barter or trade them in pa. But your plans for them now are not illegal at all
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Cody, not getting a permit in the end could make laws harsher for those who do get permits and do things legally...you have to think of it that way as well. My bobwhites i've eaten so far, i have one as a pet and two eggs in the bator that will be pets as well if they hatch....well if both are roos then i'll have to cull one.
 

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