I don't understand this lockdown and broody babysitting?

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I've read that a hen will normally defend her chicks from the other hens because they will sometimes attack them. But you do have to watch what's going on with your particular birds. Some hens are indifferent mothers. That's why many people separate the hen and new chicks from the main flock for a week or so. This mimics nature, because if given the choice, a hen will pick a secluded nesting spot away from the flock, hatch out her chicks, but only bring them back to rejoin the flock when they are a little bigger.
 
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I've read that a hen will normally defend her chicks from the other hens because they will sometimes attack them. But you do have to watch what's going on with your particular birds. Some hens are indifferent mothers. That's why many people separate the hen and new chicks from the main flock for a week or so. This mimics nature, because if given the choice, a hen will pick a secluded nesting spot away from the flock, hatch out her chicks, but only bring them back to rejoin the flock when they are a little bigger.

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My Silkie just hatched out 7 chickies on Saturday. I did separate her from the rest of the flock because last summer I lost 2 chicks on hatch day. I saw them, took pics, then later they were completely gone. I searched and searched and they were just gone! I assume it was the other chickens who got them...I was horrified...so now, my broodies get separated from the flock. Like others said, in nature, the hen finds a safe secluded spot to brood, so I think we should help them do that instead of forcing them to compete for food, water and safety. Everybody's set up is different though, and so are the flock dynamics...so do whatever works for your situation. Just keep an eye on them to make sure you don't see anything going wrong.

My chicks are only 4 days old, so they're still in their "Broody House", but soon I will open it up and let Sammie take the babies outside if she wants to. For now, they have plenty of room where they are...it's a 4' x 8' little building...basically their own coop.
 
Let me ask you all a few questions..

I am setting up my broody(Buff Orp) an area today and getting fertile eggs from a friend

I am going to put her in a extra large plastic dog crate with a smaller crate as her nest.

I cant figure the whole egg thing out, I know to put them under her when its dark, but I was reading and some people say to place the eggs pointy side up in a egg holder for 24 hrs some say round side up for 24 hrs some say dont bother? OMG I am so confused lol

When I do set them under her how do I place them? I am so scared that I will mess this up for the eggs and her!

And it is 20-22 days for hatch right?

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<~~~~that is me right now trying to figure this all out!
 
MomtoSyd&Emma :

Let me ask you all a few questions..

I am setting up my broody(Buff Orp) an area today and getting fertile eggs from a friend

I am going to put her in a extra large plastic dog crate with a smaller crate as her nest.

I cant figure the whole egg thing out, I know to put them under her when its dark, but I was reading and some people say to place the eggs pointy side up in a egg holder for 24 hrs some say round side up for 24 hrs some say dont bother? OMG I am so confused lol

When I do set them under her how do I place them? I am so scared that I will mess this up for the eggs and her!

And it is 20-22 days for hatch right?

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<~~~~that is me right now trying to figure this all out!

Keep eggs pointy side down in an egg carton while you are transferring them to the hen but you don't have to,(you can take them in a basket) this is mainly if your collecting eggs for a few days or you are getting shipped eggs sent to you to help keep the air sac at the top of the egg or for the air sac to settle back to the top. Just take the eggs and lay them under her, most hens can handle 14 or 15. Night time is best when she is wanting to sleep and won't be up and down.

It's not set in stone when they should hatch out but day 21 is usually right on target.

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To me, there are two reasons to let Mama raise the chicks with the flock if you have enough room. The chicks will pick up immunities they might need when they join the flock and Mama takes care of a lot of the integration issues. On the pecking order stuff they are on their own when she weans them, but integration is not normally problem.


MomtoSyd&Emma :

I cant figure the whole egg thing out, I know to put them under her when its dark, but I was reading and some people say to place the eggs pointy side up in a egg holder for 24 hrs some say round side up for 24 hrs some say dont bother? OMG I am so confused lol

I think you are mixing up incubators, broody hens, and storing eggs for a while before you set them. It can get complicated but it does not have to, especially with a broody.

If you are going to keep the eggs for a day or two before you put them under the hen, you probably should store them pointy side down. If you set them the day you get them, I don't think it makes any real difference. Just try to not shake the eggs up when you transport them.

The broody hen does not care how you place them. Just lay them flat in the nest. She will rearrange them anyway. I have never waited until after dark to give a broody her eggs. I just toss her off the nest, put the eggs in, and let her take over. She will probably take offf or a bite and her daily constitutional, but she might stay there, watch you, or even attack you to defend her nest. That would be a good broody with strong instincts. If her broody instincts are so weak that tossing her off the nest to give her eggs will break her, you are probably in for a rough incubation period anyway. You can aways do it at night if you want to. There is nothing wrong with that.

Some people isolate their broodies. Some don't. People are successful both ways. People have bad experiences both ways. Our circumstances and the personalities of our chickens are so different there is seldom one answer to anything that is right for everyone.

Assuming you choose not to isolate your broody, what I suggest is how I did it growing up many decades ago. When you get the eggs, mark them with a magic marker or sharpie. I put a couple of circles around the egg, one the short way and one the long way. The goal is that you will be able to tell at a glance which eggs are for hatching and which eggs other hens have laid with her that day. I'd toss the hen off the nest, take away any eggs that were already there, then place the marked eggs in her nest. I would then leave. Then, every evening, say after 5:00 p.m. but before dark, I'd toss her off the nest. She would usually take a break, grab a bite to eat, get some water, maybe take a constitutional or a dust bath, then go back to the nest. I would collect any eggs that had been laid that day and add them to the eggs to be eaten bucket. If you collect them at the end of the day, there is nothing wrong with them.

Are there risks with this approach? Of course. There are risks to everything we do. But it can be this simple. This is how I did it from the time I was old enough to collect eggs until I left home a couple of days after my 18th birthday. I never had a problem with this approach.

And it is 20-22 days for hatch right?

Yes, about 21 days for chicken eggs from the day incubation starts. A hatch is not instantaneous. The egg pips. The chick rests. The egg zips. After a bit, the chick pushes the two halves apart and comes out, wet and weak. The chick dries out. Some are earlier or later than others. When it is time, the hen takes the chicks off the nest. Unless you have something really strange, she does not need your help to do that. Mother hens have been doing that for thousands of years.​
 
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This is entirely your decision but food for thought :
- as mentioned, if she gets bullied or double teamed by one of your 20 other chickens... you may come home to find dead chicks.
-chickens don't roost in trees - so if she is nesting up high, she doesn't have a natural instinct to "stop" the chicks from falling out of the nest (so I'd move them to floor level).

As for force feeding / water - I think it's all a mater of your set up & availability, if she doesn't feel safe leaving the chicks to go eat/drink she won't... and she'll probably not be doing so well should she not eat/drink after quite some time.

Lockdown (in and of itself) refers to not opening/turning the eggs in the incubator anymore and risk decreasing the heat/humidity that is vital at the ending stages of chick hatching
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But I too used this term for my broody, I made her, her own den (where she isn't bothered!) she WAS low hen on the roost! I made a door so that she had total access to the rest of the coop and so that her little sister EE could visit (they're best friends) but as of yesterday door screen door is closed (since the EE keeps laying more eggs for her
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and I don't have a rooster ! )

I'm trying to ensure the highest hatch rate and survival rate of all my chicks/chickens so I choose to separate her for her safety and that of the chicks...
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once they're all hatched I'll let her take them outside and visit (and see if she can hold her own against the big ladies with her chicks ) ... if not I know she and her chicks can retreat to safety to their den
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totally a matter of choice for you - but I guess why not safe than sorry?
 
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