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Some humans. Many carnivores.Don't some animals, not be able to eat wheat? So what animals are you trying to feed? Also some animals can eat sprouted wheatgrass but not the wheat grains...
Thanks for the reply.Some humans. Many carnivores.
Chickens do just fine on wheat, apart from a tendency to have paler yolks than when fed on corn.
I've not seen any research suggesting things that can't eat wheat can eat wheat grass, though I've made no particular search for it. Source, please?
Most of the scratch people buy have whole grains, including wheat in it.Don't some animals, not be able to eat wheat? So what animals are you trying to feed? Also some animals can eat sprouted wheatgrass but not the wheat grains...
Ultimately, you are talking about anti-nutritive properties, which is something I try and take into account when looking at a feed recipe - but I would caution you that general hazards appropriate to ruminants like cattle don't necessarily translate to chickens. Chicken's digestion shares more in common with our own than cattle, sheep, or goats. Even then, there's some important differences in the way we and chickens make use of differing sources of phosphorus, different "types" of methionine, etc.Thanks for the reply.
OK... I think I got a bit confused. Its not so much that you can't feed them grains but some can get sick if you do. And it becomes risky. So sometimes because you are thinking in your mind welll that one can make them sick or bloated easier and has many conditions attached that you in your mind think I'm not doing that one to the animals. And then... well it was sort of worded bad.. Its not a mistake but it half way is.
So let me explain it;
People say you can feed grain wheat to cows. BUT they say they have a much bigger chance of getting bloated if you do. And they say that you shouldn't feed them more than 50% wheat too.
With sheep they say don't feed them it if they aren't used to it. And that feeding it to them in large amounts can cause problems.
This document attached has a paragraph that says; "Sheep which have been accustomed to one typeof grain can not immediately adjust to another.Consequently, deaths and a high incidence oftender wool can result from a sudden switch offeed." (deaths is bad).
There's similar information where people say you can't feed beans to chickens. But other people have come back and said well if the beans are cooked and have WATER in them that its fine. Or sprouted is fine. This is a separate example to help make it clear.
This second reference shows some guidelines for doing wheat to cattle and mentions some risks that many don't like. (Therefore many won't do that.)
https://u.osu.edu/beef/2010/06/30/feeding-wheat-to-beef-cattle/
Never heard before that chickens can get sick from wheat or other grains the manufacturers put in the scratch they sell here.Its not so much that you can't feed them grains but some can get sick if you do. And it becomes risky.
A feed with soy and other high protein veggies + add vitamines, methionine and such is much cheaper than adding insects or dried meat. So the manufacturers sell that. With these kind of balanced vegan feed, the farmers are able to sell cheap eggs and chicken meat.Therefore it's basically impossible to find a "working" feed recipe that does not include animal protein.
Diets based on seeds need animal protein integration to properly work.
Op is asking for a seed-only diet, he's not asking for industrial feed. Obviously, industrial feed has all the chemicals a chicken need but OP might not have access to it or he might not want to use it for whatever reason.A feed with soy and other high protein veggies + add vitamines, methionine