I have chicks going down slowly. Progressively weak then wobbly....

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1) What type of bird , age and weight (does the chicken seem or feel lighter or thinner than the others.) Standard Black Sumatras chicks ordered from Ideal Poultry that were overnighted to me and received Thursday AM. Every was sparkling and running around fine. Friday AM we discovered a casualty next to the chick waterer so I assumed a drowning so put in polished stone pebbles in the waterer. Also Friday during the day noticed there was one apparently Failing to thrive it progressively got worse until it went down lower and lower on its legs and would not eat or take water. Was not producing stool, vent checks are all coming up clean. This morning around noon I have another chick with the wobbles and suspect the same will happen, currently it is taking water just fine, but everyone looks like roadrunners compared to it now. The MHP temp is fine with 90 degree temps. Last years batch of chicks had 100% survival rates. Legs are structurally normal. I'm thinking environmental or congenital etiology.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms? Second case of the wobbles.
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.None.
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation. I'm starting to suspect they just don't have awesome genetics. Or GI issues.
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Full-O=Pep Pullet Starter-Grower(medicated with ampromium) designed for freshly hatched to 5 weeks, drinking water.
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Absent vents are clean.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? Monitor and heat at 90 degrees. Offer water if the chicks arent drinking them selves.
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? Not taking these to a vet.
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help. N/A
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use- Moved to an indoor bathtub with MHP still set to 90 degrees, bedding is fresh coastal hay with newspaper under it. Additionally, outside of the hatchery they have never been exposed to other chicken.
 
Sorry that no one else has responded, but all I can say is they were stressed in shipping, or may have been a bed hatch. I have not used a MHP, but are they getting outside and going to a cooler spot in case they are overheated? Have you tried dipping their beaks into the water, and trying a few drops of some Poultry NutriDrench or SaveAChick electrolytes?
 
Sorry that no one else has responded, but all I can say is they were stressed in shipping, or may have been a bed hatch. I have not used a MHP, but are they getting outside and going to a cooler spot in case they are overheated? Have you tried dipping their beaks into the water, and trying a few drops of some Poultry NutriDrench or SaveAChick electrolytes?
They are not huddled around the heat source for the most part they are scratching, running eating and drinking during the daylight hours. Really, roadrunners.
 
I would contact the hatchery for replacements. Give them all some NutriDrench a couple of drops a days. So sad that you lost some. Rarer breeds have a limited gene pool, and some of the ones that I have had do not always end up healthy, or I have had terrible hatch rates.
 
I would contact the hatchery for replacements. Give them all some NutriDrench a couple of drops a days. So sad that you lost some. Rarer breeds have a limited gene pool, and some of the ones that I have had do not always end up healthy, or I have had terrible hatch rates.
That is where my thinking is. I know it isn't the coastal hay bedding as there aren't farms close to the pasture that might get crop dusted. It is why I choose to buy it 10 miles from home as the guy 1-2 mile away has a pasture that is surrounded by farms that get dusted.
 
The slightly wobbly from earlier is pretty much sitting on deaths doorstep I give it another 20-30 minutes tops. Same symptoms never grew never thrived. Drank fine at one point and I knew it wasn't going to survive. Yesterday it was an active little one but I guess it ran out of internal eggsac reserves or had congenital issues too.

These guys were less than 24 (bought the heat pack as I knew their region could have some lows while shipping in the high 50's)hours in the post and same procedures with same breed from another hatchery(3 days in the post) in rearing minus the MHP(could only find 250w bulbs) for a lamp in a grow out tank at the deepest tip of south Texas as they were often heat stressed as the room wouldn't go under 95F with that thing even turned on. I would think they need to work on a better cull/breed program for their Black Sumatra. They have a great NPIP certification status and same goes for their reputation. Just I would have expected they knew better their survival rates with decent husbandry practices. Enough to tell the customer to expect some losses and offer some choice on packing peanuts I want to request.
 
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