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Discussion in 'Local Chicken Laws & Ordinances (and how to change' started by hollymh, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. hollymh

    hollymh *A Scrambled Egg*

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    I live in Guam, my husband is military and I love it here; however, I couldn't find out if it was legal to ship eggs here from the states, well it is, and I know it would be a risk to have hatching eggs sent that far and not to mention costly, but in order to maintain a normal life I'm willing to stick it out... Any how, the link below is the link that gives the laws about having shipping eggs hatched, could someone please read over it and let me know if I have a chance here... I just want to ensure that I and who ever is willing to ship me eggs do not run into any problems... I really truly apprciate any help!!!

    http://www.justice.gov.gu/CompilerofLaws/GAR/09GAR/09GAR001-1.pdf


    What I figure from this law compiler is that the eggs need an affdavit stating they are healthy and that's pretty much all... Am I missing something, this just seems too easy?
     
  2. Mahonri

    Mahonri Urban Desert Chicken Enthusiast Premium Member

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    I thought Guam was part of the USA?

    Is it a territorial law?
     
  3. hollymh

    hollymh *A Scrambled Egg*

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    Quote:The one and ONLY reason that there is a law against brining animals here is b/c there are no rabies on the island, I can understand why they would want to keep it that way.
     
  4. flopshot

    flopshot Chillin' With My Peeps

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    requirement 5 should be easy enough to comply with but #8 is a bit confusing. you might have your husband check the regs with the base command or even the guy that runs the PX as he deals with this all the time.
     
  5. Chicken Fruit

    Chicken Fruit Chillin' With My Peeps

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    According to this you do not need permission to ship hatching eggs so long as the eggs come from a federally recognized npip free and compliant breeder/hatchery. All the laws and rules for poultry dont apply except for that. You'll also need an note stating that the breeder says their flock is pnumonia and newcastle free.

    (5) The requirements of (2), (3) and (4) above, shall not
    apply to hatching eggs and day-old poultry provided the
    same are accompanied by an affidavit from the shipper
    stating that, to the best of his knowledge and as a result of
    a careful inspection of the flock of origin, Newcastle
    disease (avian pneumoencephalitis) is not present in said
    flock, that said flock has not been recently exposed to
    Newcastle disease and, further, that Newcastle disease has
    not occurred in said flock within the sixty (60) day period
    preceding date of shipment. For the purpose of this
    Regulation any clinically similar respiratory or nervous
    disease which has not been definitely diagnosed by
    laboratory procedures to be a disease other than Newcastle
    disease shall be deemed to be Newcastle disease;

    I would suggest ordering your hatching eggs from a real hatchery. Since they already have all those federal aknowledgements and papers. They should already know what to send with the shipment to get it into guam.
     
  6. hollymh

    hollymh *A Scrambled Egg*

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    Quote:We live off base so the military isn't involved with it, and I have asked a few guys that he works with even the Commander, that are locals and NO ONE and I mean NO ONE knows lol It has been quite the feat to figure this one out... I'm about 99% sure that the eggs only have to be inspected and graded if I planned on selling them for consumption, which I do not...
     
  7. hollymh

    hollymh *A Scrambled Egg*

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    Quote:I have tried a few, but they all tell me they won't ship to me and leave it at that, I have even recieved a extreamly rude e-mail for Cackle, so I pretty much have avoided it. I suppose I will try a few more hatcherys though. Thanks!
     
  8. erinm

    erinm Posting For A change

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    as far as rabies, it should not even figure into the mix. It is a mammalian disease and not transmissable to poultry so as far as that goes your ok. Erinm
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    even the guy that runs the PX as he deals with this all the time.

    PX doesn't have anything to do with it. That's like saying go to Walmart or Target and ask their manager.

    I assume you have an APO address? or can at least get one?

    That is where your eggs should be sent.

    As was already said, they need to come from an NPIP flock, and there needs to be a statement that no Newcastle has been present in the flock. They also need to be shipped in an unused box--this is probably a biggie as many folks reuse boxes.

    Check out the US Postal regulations and search on "hatching eggs" and also on "lives." When I did that, the only commercial airlines carrying hatching eggs to Guam come from Honolulu; not sure if they can be sent there then onward, or not--the concern would be time in transit. The FedEx chart wasn't very helpful--it listed places where FedEx transit was not available; not where it was.

    http://www.usps.com/send/waystosendmail/extraservices/specialhandlingservice.htm gives some useful information and some places to start trying to find out the details of how to get your eggs or day olds.

    A trip to your post office to talk to the folks there on how to go about getting birds would probably be helpful. The shipper may need to do the same on his/her end. Don't worry about the inspection--let the PO take care of that--I'm sure they do it all the time.

    You may also want to see if you can find birds on the island--ask how they go about getting their chicks.

    Good luck!​
     

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