I Need Help Imballanced Hen Otherwise Healthy Looking

[Nambroth]

I am not familiar with Kickin' Chicken, but the analysis looks promising; I would administer it via the recommended dosage on the package.
Dosing by adding it to the feed is much more accurate; add it only to as much feed as she might eat in one sitting. That way you know you are getting the full dose into her.
By adding it to water, some formulations can break down, and unless she drinks 100% of her water, she will not get a full dose.
Dosing via water for an entire flock is even more problematic because you have no control at all over how much each bird gets.

Regarding your feed, I am not familiar with TSC's All Purpose Grain. Is it scratch? Any way you can share the label ingredients with us? Sorry for all the questions. Trying to piece together this puzzle..

 

[Chickery Chick]

That makes total sense, to put this product on the grain. I put 1/4 tsp on her grain, and she actually pecked it out. So it must taste good. She is maintaining standing most of the time, but not perching, as she is still unable to be comfortable while perching (wobbles). I will give her a couple of weeks on Kickin’ Chicken and see what happens.

I looked over all the ingredients of 3 products mentioned here. My conclusion is Kickin' Chicken is more closely related to Sav-A-Chick Electrolyte but Kickin' has added Omega fatty acids/crude fat so might be a good product to help put some weight on, boost energy, add sheen to feathers, skin health, in addition to healthy nerve system but not neccassarily a quick fix/get chick on feet formula, which is fine by me. I'm looking for long term as this is looking to be a diet/nutrition problem.

Sav-A-Chick has an enormous amount of D3. I presume to get the chick on its feet for added calcium absorption, all ok there, but the high does of Vitamin A does raise some concern. Vit. A is great for boosting the immunity, has antioxidant, supports bone growth, but overdoes is toxic and dangerous and hard to measure safe amount. It is better to have in natural form of A than synthetic; liver, fish liver oils, milk, milk products, butter, eggs, carrots, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, spinach, butternut squash, turnip greens, bok choy, mustard greens, and romaine lettuce. Also Sav-A-Chick has what looks like a lot of salt which balances sugar levels, needed for food absorption, natural antihistamine, and firming bones, which is all good. Sav-A-Chick looks ok for a quick short 1-time use or sparse use.

Although Nutri Drench has notation of quick absorbency, it lacks Biotin which may be important in diet http://www.poultrynews.com/New/Diseases/Merks/207029.htm .
Also Nutri Drench lacks Niacin andB12(which are noted for keeping nerve and blood cells/heart healthy). Both Kickin’ and Sav-A Chick have this. Just a quick glance, I'd use Nutri Drench for animals needing a quick boost in calcium such as a lactating/gestating female animal, or even just before or during a difficult birth as calcium is essential for energy and strong contractions and lots of D for absorption of Calcium. There could be other reasons for low calcium too that this would be good for such as an unhealthy digestive tract/poor absorption of nutrients or poor diet. I would consider this product a short term quick fix to get the animal on his/her feet and then quickly look at a better diet.

Here are the Ingredients of other products mentioned or suggested:

Kickin' Chicken Guaranteed Analysis ingredients listed on previous page on this forum

Here is the Guaranteed Analysis for Nutri Drench (notably used for goats, less mention for chickens but they do have it for chickens):
Calcium (Min) ........ 0.4%
Calcium (Max) ........0.7%
Selenium (min) .......0.1 mg/ fl. oz.
Vitamin A (min)....... 23, 700 IU/ fl. oz., or 790 IU/mL
Vitamin D (min)....... 5910 IU/fl. oz or 197 IU/mL
Vitamin E (min)....... 90 IU/fl oz. or 3 IU/mL
Ingredients: propylene glycol, molasses products, calcium carbonate, choline chloride, DL-methionine, I-lysine, Vitamin E supplement, Vitamin A supplement, Vitamin D-3 supplement, thiamine, niacin, zinc sulfate, ethylenediamine dihydroiodide, magnesium sulfate, manganese sulfate, iron sulfate, sodium selenite, cobalt sulfate and sugar.
Dosage instructions:
1-4 days: 4 oz/gallon
5-14 days: 2 oz/gallon
2-4 weeks: 1 oz/gallon
4-6 weeks: 1/2 oz/gallon
6 weeks+: 1/4 oz/gallon
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Here is the Guaranteed Analysis for Sav-A-Chick Electrolyte:
Salt, min.....................8.0%
Salt, max....................9.0%
Sodium, min...............14.0%
Sodium, max..............14.5.5%
Potassium, min..........15.0%
Vitamin A, min............1,280,000 IU/lb
Vitamin D3, min…….3,200,000 IU/lb
Vitamin E, min……..960 Iu/lb
Ingredients: Potassium chloride, sodium citrate, dextrose, sodium bicarbonate, sodium chloride, vitamin D3 supplement, ascorbic acid(vitamin C), vitamin A supplement, vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement(vitamin B3), magnesium sulfate, calcium
pantothenate (vitamin B5), folic acid (vitamin B9),
menadione sodium bisulfite complex (vitamin K), vitamin
B12 supplement, riboflavin supplement (vitamin B2),
pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), thiamine
mononitrate (vitamin B1), artificial color, silicon dioxide.
Directions For Use:
Mix 1 individual packet (approx. 0.25 ounces (7.09 grams) of dry powder) into 1 gallon of clean, cool water. Offer the mixed solution for 1 to 5 days during hot weather or other stress. Important: Make fresh solution daily.

 

[aorian star]

I have a Blue Lace Red Wyandotte Rooster is about 6 months old, who is having trouble walking. Acts like he is drunk. It reminds me of someone with vertigo, or an inner-ear infection. I noticed some suggest it could be a vitamin deficiency, but I've been feeding them layer's pellets, supplement with a Forage block and scratch grains and radish greens. None of the other chickens appear to have the same issues and they are on the same diet. Could this be an inner ear infection or something of that nature. I would appreciate any advice. Oh yeah, I just noticed it yesterday, and we are just starting to have cooler weather with frost and such, if that makes a difference.

 

[3riverschick]

I would give a fast absorbing balance of nutrients like Nutri Drench for a day or two to see if the condition improves: http://www.bovidr.com/ingredients.html

The only time I've witnessed the behavior you mentioned was with a hard moulting hen that blew feathers quickly.

I agree. Poultry Nutri Drench mainlines right into the bloodstream. Wonderful stuff. I have used Bovidr supplements on my collies and birds for over a decade.
Best,
Karen

 

[3riverschick]

Quote:
Quote: Hi aorian star,

Sent you a private message.
Best,
Karen

 

[Michael Apple]

I agree. Poultry Nutri Drench mainlines right into the bloodstream. Wonderful stuff. I have used Bovidr supplements on my collies and birds for over a decade.
Best,
Karen

I've used it for helping chicks along with much success. For long term regular use, I use Avian super Pack and Probios dispersible powder. None of the others compare to Avian Super Pack: http://www.asp-inc.com/products/documents/prodinfo/a/avianspint.pdf

 

[Chickery Chick]

Thanks Apple. I forgot to look at Avian Super Pack. I'll do that.
Also I told you guys wrong. I don't have a Tractor Supply TSC in town. It sold out to Orscheln's and I forget. Took me a decade to quit calling it Wheelers so I'm a bit slow. lol. Here is the feed I am/was giving them from Orscheln's. Country Lane 16% All Purpose Poultry Crumbles - 40 Lb.
http://www.orschelnfarmhome.com/16-...rumbles-40-lb/ctl16754/cp59751/si5176398/cl1/
I really wish it would have stayed Tractor Supply. They had more products for animals/chickens.