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Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Poohbear, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Poohbear

    Poohbear On a Time Out

    Nov 12, 2008
    Where can I get a book to show 2009 standards for APA? i had some Aseel at a show recently and had to show against Gamefowl. I'd like to show mine in APA shows against Aseel or some breed like them. I don't know what APA looks for in Aseel.
  2. Greenspur

    Greenspur In the Brooder

    Dec 8, 2008
    NY State
    PBear -
    If you go to the APA website (www.amerpoultryassn.com) there is a web store section where they have the Standards available for purchase. There is a 2001 color hardcover edition (the latest available) and a 1998 softcover black and white illustration edition. A new one is in the works, but not available yet. I think both have Aseel text descriptions in there, but the 2001 may be the one that has illustrations of Aseels. You could also contact either APA Director Pat Malone or Vice President Sam Brush. Address-contact info on APA website. Both are in Texas, and they may have Standard copies available. Both should be at the Fort Worth Stock Show January 24-25 if you happen to be going there.

    Last edited: Jan 7, 2009
  3. SBRUSH88

    SBRUSH88 In the Brooder

    Jun 24, 2007

    Greenspur is correct in that you can buy either copy of the Standard of Perfection through the APA's online store. The color one is $59 postpaid and the b/w edition is $14 postpaid. You can also get one directly from me if you want as I have a stock I keep on hand. You can mail me a check for $59 and I'll mail one to you or you could just pick it up in Fort Worth if you come to the Stock Show. $48 if you just pick it up there. I also have the b/w.

    I kind of clerked for Monty Fitzgerald at BBC and saw your Aseels. They were certainly nice birds overall compared to the other Games, but in terms of meeting Standard Aseel requirements they were perhaps a bit smaller than desired. While the APA Standard description was set for Aseels back in the 1980's, nevertheless the population of Aseels across America and in their native areas of Asia is really a board rainbow of types and colors. There are lots of different types and that makes it challenging in showing them. California is kind of a hotbed for Standard Aseels although there are some other pockets of birds that match the APA Standard.

    Sam Brush
  4. moduckman

    moduckman Songster

    Jan 2, 2009
    Cairo, Missouri
    You must also realize that Aseels are in the same category as game fowl. In APA shows, standard size chickens have six classes - American, Asiatic, American, Continental, Mediterranean, and all other standard breed. Game birds as well as Aseels are both part of the AOSB class. They will also show against Moderns, sultans, naked necks, Araucanas and the ever popular Black Sumatras. A tough chore for any Aseel.[​IMG]
  5. prariechiken

    prariechiken Songster

    Feb 9, 2007
    The only thing I would caution is that you do not push your asils to a visual standard whereas you lose the character and disposition of the fowl. Have you seen the Asil article by Dr. Everett in the Dec/Jan. Backyard Poultry magazine? I would encourage anyone looking to breed asils to read this article.
  6. Poohbear

    Poohbear On a Time Out

    Nov 12, 2008
    Thanks for all the replys and the nice comments on my standard Aseel birds. Yes, they were small compared to the regular games and I had NO idea of what I needed to win. I didn't even know I could show them in the regular Aseel section until after I had entered them in the show. Although all my birds placed from 1st to 3rd (one 4th) I can understand how Aseel are NOT as desired as the games they were showing against. Different kind of a chicken altogether.I'm going to stick with my Aseel though and try to breed for all the best of an Asil or Aseel. I'll just build a better mousetrap next time.I can't win if I quit so I'll just keep showing and enjoying going to the shows.Everyone has a favorite bird and while I applaud the games. they are not the birds my Aseel are.
  7. fowlafoot

    fowlafoot Songster

    Apr 22, 2008
    Good for you Poohbear! I love my asils also. I think when dealing with the rare breeds you may have the disadvantage of the judge not having seen that breed before. I've heard people on here refering to asils and malays as mean looking and if you aren't used to them they can look that way and the natural preference is towards a bird that looks more like what you are used to. All we can do is keep breeding and raising and showing them and people will get used to them and see how wonderful they are. Please don't lose sight of their character when breeding them though, because it's the personality that really makes this breed so special... without that it's just another odd looking bird.

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