I think I have came up with a lemon colored silkie!(PIC)

[Krys109uk]

You can dissect the genetics any way you want to but the bottom line remains the same.

Well quite so, but some of us enjoy discussing genetics anyway.

Forthe most part I can't even tell one colour silkie from another.

I guess a question I have is if you dilute red with lavender or ig as compared with the usual dilute, is the buff phenotype the same, or do they differ?

Well I've played with lavender (lav) & cream (ig).... lav on sex linked gold (s+) tends to be light straw yellow whereas ig can vary from pale yellow to almost silver.

Now dilute (Di) I don't know. But......I have been playing with buff cuckoo Orps (aka lemon cuckoo thugh really they're more like barred than cuckoo) anyway...a few generations down the line & I have three distinct colours which have segregated out. One is a kind of orange, one is the usual buff of buff orps & one is a very pale buff, possibly a tad more pink than than the above mentioned colours. Could this be the action of dilute I wonder????

Or is it something else?

 

[HatTrickSilkies]

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[Sonoran Silkies]

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Well I've played with lavender (lav) & cream (ig).... lav on sex linked gold (s+) tends to be light straw yellow whereas ig can vary from pale yellow to almost silver.

Now dilute (Di) I don't know. But......I have been playing with buff cuckoo Orps (aka lemon cuckoo thugh really they're more like barred than cuckoo) anyway...a few generations down the line & I have three distinct colours which have segregated out. One is a kind of orange, one is the usual buff of buff orps & one is a very pale buff, possibly a tad more pink than than the above mentioned colours. Could this be the action of dilute I wonder????

Or is it something else?

Well, s+ isn't quite buff; I think you have to add mahogany and then dilute to get buff colouring? However the isabel is definitely very straw coloured.

I guess part of what I am wondering about is the difference in hue of a bird who is s+s+ MhMh lavlav versus one who is s+s+ MhMh DiDi versus one who is s+s+ MhMh igig. (Of course all the females would be s+-, and I know that other genes are required such as Co, but I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible to emphasize the genetic difference.)

 

[Krys109uk]

I guess part of what I am wondering about is the difference in hue of a bird who is s+s+ MhMh lavlav versus one who is s+s+ MhMh DiDi versus one who is s+s+ MhMh igig.

UK Partridge (Pg) wyandottes are said to be Mh & Di. (they're much more of a yellow colour than their US counterparts).

There are citroen wyandottes which are have ig & they're much paler....but they may be both ig & Di (& not Mh)?

There's the lemon porcelain.....that pinkish colour is ig with Mh.

Now eWh, s+, Mh, lav, I don't think I've seen but I have E/eWh, Co/co+, s+/s+, Mh/mh+,Lav+/lav, youngsters growing on so maybe I'll see next year.

Obviously there's buff more to it than sex linked gold. But how much difference is there between the colour of lav on buff (Isabel) & lav on neck hackles of e+ & eb birds? It doesn't appear to look very different.
I am curious about the gene segregating out of my buffs (they aren't lav & unlikely to be ig). The likelihood is that due to the initial outcross & never having used outside birds, some of the genes in my original buffs are starting to segregate out.​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I think most US buff silkies are probably e^b, certainly the ones with the smutty undercolour.