I thought she was egg-bound or prolapsed but not sure now, looking for help identifying/helping issue with young light brahma hen

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Hen info: Dotty, light brahma hen, 24 weeks old, has not laid any eggs yet

Current State: she is separated, seems mostly alert, not eating or drinking much if at all, pooping but seems to be barely coming out and just dripping onto her feathers.

Timeline:
Sunday morning
- we heard two singing their egg song and one sounded different than normal. Since we had two hens that hadn't started laying yet, we just assumed it was one of them laying their first egg. I checked on them right after and everyone looked fine.
Sunday afternoon - I went out and Dotty's bottom was dripping a little blood and was very bloody/dirty. We immediately separated her and got her in a warm epsom salt bath to clean her up. Her vent looked like it may have prolapsed, no tissue was hanging out but it was definitely swollen and "puckering outward" a bit if that makes sense. I used vetericyn and then once she was mostly dried off from the bath, covered her vent in a little vaseline.
Monday/Tuesday - She has remained separate, in our garage, it has mostly stayed dark in there, with just a short period of light each day. I put a little more vetericyn and veseline on her vent periodically. The swelling of the vent is not quite as bad. I don't see any blood anymore, but there is a white-ish ooze from time to time (poop?). I added some crushed calcium tablets to her food but she doesn't appear to be eating. I do believe she had a little amount of water but not sure. There is poop in her box but not as much as there should be over multiple days. She will occasionally look like she is trying to squeeze something out, but then just cluck a couple times, and then nothing comes out (or a small amount of drippy poo or something white might come). Her movement is normal but less frequent, however she is also confined to a smaller space.
Wednesday (today) - She got another warm epsom salt bath. She seems slightly more alert. She is still doing the occasional squeeze/cluck/nothing coming out process. Still seems to not really want to eat or drink and still not pooping normal. I am heading to pick up a syringe so I can try forcing some calcium water into her. There is no egg to be seen. Her vent looks not quite normal but I don't think it looks prolapsed either.

I would prefer to handle her care at home. Any thoughts on whether she's egg bound or if this sounds like something else? Any other suggestions to help her out?
 
Can you just open her beak and pop the calcium into her beak? I would just hold her in you arm like a football, and squeeze open her beak with the same hand while placing the tablet into her beak. Calcium citrate with vitamin D 3 is the quickest absorbed. 300-600 mg can be given once a day. Can you provide some light in there? I’m just afraid if she has an egg stuck in there she won’t make it. Has she been taking food and water?
 
Can you just open her beak and pop the calcium into her beak? I would just hold her in you arm like a football, and squeeze open her beak with the same hand while placing the tablet into her beak. Calcium citrate with vitamin D 3 is the quickest absorbed. 300-600 mg can be given once a day. Can you provide some light in there? I’m just afraid if she has an egg stuck in there she won’t make it. Has she been taking food and water?
I don't think she has eaten since Sunday but she does have access to food. I got some water in her today with a dropper and I've been doing that every hour or so. I have those tablets so I'll go try to put one in there shortly, I had read to crush and mix into food or water so I didn't know I could give her the whole thing.

She got more light today. I thought she was prolapsed first and I read we should limit her light but today I turned the light on most of the day and will continue that.
 
Thank you!
I was able to get a half a tablet into her, they're 625 mg and they're pretty big. Any suggestions on getting her to eat something?
 
Have you tried scrambled egg, oatmeal or oatmeal mixed with chicken feed that is wet and mushy, canned cat food or some tuna? Mine will usually go for that. Occasionally I have opened their beak and popped in bits of scrambled egg. Also cooked ground beef

It seems if they go a few days without eating they must not feel hungry.

Watermelon and grapes are usually a winner and will give her some sugar for energy.

Is her crop totally empty? I'm just wondering if she could be clogged up but not necessarily with an egg.
 
Chicken feed is best and you can mix a small amount with water to make it watery and get more fluids into her at the same time. But coaxing a sick chicken to eat, you may need to tempt with cooked egg, rinsed tuna or salmon, canned cat food, ground meat. Then back off and get back to the chicken feed. I had a hen who could not get to food or water for 5 weeks once, and she ate wet feed and some bits of the other things above, and lived.

There are many methods that people here use. Some tube (crop) feed using a baby lamb tube and syringe. Some make torpedos out of chicken feed, raw egg, and drops of water, and put tiny pieces into the beak. Some birds will take fluids from a spoon to the side of their beaks.
 
Is her lower abdomen puffy/swollen? I recently had a hen who had water belly and she unfortunately passed away.
I don't think so but I am not entirely sure how to tell. She looks and feels pretty normal. She is our biggest girl (all the same age but different breeds).
 
Have you tried scrambled egg, oatmeal or oatmeal mixed with chicken feed that is wet and mushy, canned cat food or some tuna? Mine will usually go for that. Occasionally I have opened their beak and popped in bits of scrambled egg. Also cooked ground beef

It seems if they go a few days without eating they must not feel hungry.

Watermelon and grapes are usually a winner and will give her some sugar for energy.

Is her crop totally empty? I'm just wondering if she could be clogged up but not necessarily with an egg.
I just tried giving her some scrambled egg and grapes but she wasn't interested. I will keep trying, it's getting late and she would normally be up for the night by now.

I had to look up how to check her crop, I'm pretty new to this. I believe it is empty or mostly empty. It's not very big, maybe slightly rounded but not like a ball, and it is pretty hard. It is somewhat bumpy/nubby too.
 
Thank you all for your help so far. I think she is getting a little annoyed by me fussing with her, she usually barely lets anyone touch her. I did get the calcium tablet and some water in her today, she's still unsure about the food but I will keep trying the egg, oatmeal, etc. suggestions. She doesn't seem lethargic, slower than usual, but when I annoyed her she jumped and scurried across the box pretty quickly.

It's getting colder here, down to low 30s at night. I read something that said to keep an egg-bound hen warm, should I be doing that?

It will be pretty warm during the day the next few days, should I give her time outside and just make sure the other girls don't mess with her? Or is it best to keep them totally separated until she's (hopefully) better?

This was her today, she has a love/hate relationship with the epsom salt bath. Dotty Bath.jpg
 

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