identifying gender in chicks not true to breed

[llcardinale]

Hello Everyone,
So, as a first time chicken keeper, I'm trying to figure out if I have two cockerels out of my four Salmon Faverolle 10 week old chicks. Their coloring does not appear to be especially true to breed, and because two chicks had beak deformities and one had a hip deformity (both of whom I surrendered to my vet, who wanted to raise and keep them), I'm not surprised that they would exhibit qualities not true to breed--poorly bred evidently. Regarding coloring, the two chicks that I think are males both have more pronounced and darker black beards, and their more dramatic feathering looks more male. In the first photo, the chick in the foreground is female while I believe the chick immediately behind her is male? The second photo is the other female. The remainder photos are of the two chicks that I believe are males. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

I’m not seeing any cockerels but I am seeing hatchery quality salmon faverolles. I’ve had show-quality and hatchery quality and the hatchery ones were pretty sooty. Where did you get them?

 

[llcardinale]

I’m not seeing any cockerels but I am seeing hatchery quality salmon faverolles. I’ve had show-quality and hatchery quality and the hatchery ones were pretty sooty. Where did you get them?

I got them from The Chicken Coop Company, where I purchased a coop that I ended up discarding because I realized it was going to be way too small. They say they get their chicks from Cackle Hatchery, but Cackle said they've never heard of them. So, who knows. The largest one is about 30% larger than the others and behaves as if he/she is the guardian by alerting to any sound that seems threatening, and every night paces the brooder chirping as if calling all to settle down, and for me to get out. Seemed like male behavior to me? The two have longer feathers, but, as you can see, their coloring is all essentially the same, other than having blacker beards. I would be thrilled if they all turned out to be female. The two that I thought could be male hang out together, separating themselves from the others, and are very aloof from me, while the other six are very engaging. I've never been around chickens before, so basically I'm clueless about the range of behavior.

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

The two that I thought could be male hang out together, separating themselves from the others, and are very aloof from me, while the other six are very engaging.

Generally males are friendlier as chicks but behavior isn’t a good indicator except in hindsight. Once you get pics without the red light maybe someone else will know better what they are

 

[llcardinale]

Generally males are friendlier as chicks but behavior isn’t a good indicator except in hindsight. Once you get pics without the red light maybe someone else will know better what they are

What do you mean by "the red light?" I only have a white spectrum light next to the brooder. It's a HealthyLight incandescent bulb (made in Sweden), which is engineered to have only healthy wavelengths. The overhead lights are regular incandescent, but the light is somewhat blocked by the tan tent material on the top of the brooder, which is a camping tent.

 

[AinaWGSD]

They all have pale breast feathers.

This is a picture from Cackle's salmon faverolle page. You can see that the breast, belly, legs and tail are black. Your chicks don't have a significant amount of dark feathers in any of those areas. So even if their coloring does poorly against the written standard, they still have typical female coloration.

 

[Not-so Slick Chicken]

I tried looking up pictures of 10 week old salmon faverolles, and the males are noticeably different.
So it appears you likely have pullets.

As far as personalities- it kind of just comes down to the individual bird.
I have several egg-laying pullets that have more confident and curious personalities. Some also took on the lookout role.
There is a cockerel in the flock, and they share a fence with a flock of hens and rooster

 

[BlindLemonChicken]

What do you mean by "the red light?" I only have a white spectrum light next to the brooder. It's a HealthyLight incandescent bulb (made in Sweden), which is engineered to have only healthy wavelengths. The overhead lights are regular incandescent, but the light is somewhat blocked by the tan tent material on the top of the brooder, which is a camping tent.

I mean I was thinking of the wrong post lol. I have a lot of distractions going on. Let me try again.

Personalities are not a good indicator. Sorry for confusion

 

[llcardinale]

I mean I was thinking of the wrong post lol. I have a lot of distractions going on. Let me try again.

Personalities are not a good indicator. Sorry for confusion

Thank you

 

[llcardinale]

I tried looking up pictures of 10 week old salmon faverolles, and the males are noticeably different.
So it appears you likely have pullets.

As far as personalities- it kind of just comes down to the individual bird.
I have several egg-laying pullets that have more confident and curious personalities. Some also took on the lookout role.
There is a cockerel in the flock, and they share a fence with a flock of hens and rooster

Thank you--feeling relieved that I have all females.