Identifying.. what are these?

[SBaltz]

I know lots of folks have posted asking on these, and I have read soooo many of them, and I apologize for adding to it, but I am trying to figure just what these are... I thought they were tapeworms, but they do not move at all. They have a slight round on one end, like a pinhead. We are treating this hen specifically for tapeworm (because that is what we thought she had, and the wormer works for other worms too) with 1/2ml Valbazen (4 days ago for her first dosage and then again in 6 days), based on the recommendations from several folks here, the chicken-chick.com, and the bottle itself. She showed her first one of these just before treatment, then once the other day, and now twice today. I am just trying to identify what they are. We are finishing the worming process and if they still show up, we will go from there... she shows no signs of lethargy, no signs of malnutrition, in fact she is as boisterous, noisy and loving as she has ever been. My brother is a vet and he agreed that the white spots were not oyster shells, but definitely were organic in matter (living or had been) vs shell deposits. (He lives next door and I took the poop over for him to look at this morning). gross, I know, but I don’t want anything to happen to her!

I poked several of them and no movement at all.

what do pin worms or round worms look like in larvae form or such? Thanks for being patient with me!

 

[Tonyroo]

It kind of resembles this picture I found on web search although the ones in the picture looks bigger than yours. The title said it was a fish parasite. Not sure what to make of it.

 

[LaFleche]

I know lots of folks have posted asking on these, and I have read soooo many of them, and I apologize for adding to it, but I am trying to figure just what these are... I thought they were tapeworms, but they do not move at all. They have a slight round on one end, like a pinhead. We are treating this hen specifically for tapeworm (because that is what we thought she had, and the wormer works for other worms too) with 1/2ml Valbazen (4 days ago for her first dosage and then again in 6 days), based on the recommendations from several folks here, the chicken-chick.com, and the bottle itself. She showed her first one of these just before treatment, then once the other day, and now twice today. I am just trying to identify what they are. We are finishing the worming process and if they still show up, we will go from there... she shows no signs of lethargy, no signs of malnutrition, in fact she is as boisterous, noisy and loving as she has ever been. My brother is a vet and he agreed that the white spots were not oyster shells, but definitely were organic in matter (living or had been) vs shell deposits. (He lives next door and I took the poop over for him to look at this morning). gross, I know, but I don’t want anything to happen to her!

I poked several of them and no movement at all.

what do pin worms or round worms look like in larvae form or such? Thanks for being patient with me!

From what I could observe tapeworm segments do usually only move for some time after leaving the body cavity. They will be discharged for several days and even after the deworming ended. Your picture looks like tapeworm segments to me.

 

[CluckerFamily]

I agree, your picture looks like tapeworm parts.

 

[SBaltz]

From what I could observe tapeworm segments do usually only move for some time after leaving the body cavity. They will be discharged for several days and even after the deworming ended. Your picture looks like tapeworm segments to me.

That is good to know about the discharging and continual. Does the main worm ever come out?

 

[dawg53]

That is good to know about the discharging and continual. Does the main worm ever come out?

I've dealt with tapeworms. Valbazen has lost its effectiveness in treating poultry tapeworms.
You need to buy Equimax equine paste at a feed store and only dose birds that are excreting the tapeworm segments aka proglottids. The Equimax will be in the Equine section.

Dosage is 0.15ml per pound or 0.15ml for a 5 pound hen.

You can use a syringe without a needle to withdraw and measure the amount of the soft paste from the large preloaded Equimax syringe with plunger provided in the box. Or give it best guess and put a dab on your finger and give it orally to each tapeworm infected bird. You must give it orally via syringe without needle or by finger, and individually in order to be effective.

It's entirely possible that you might see white broken up pieces of tapeworm excreted in feces or maybe thin strands almost like jellyfish tentacles excreted in feces. IF you see them, it means that the praziquantel did its job and killed the tapeworm(s).

It's also possible that you might NOT see anything at all. That means that the tapeworm was absorbed as protein in the digestive tract.

Once you dose the tapeworm infected birds, keep an eye on the excretions for the first hour. That's when you'll tapeworm pieces or strands actually excreted.

It's best to withhold feed from your infected birds 2-3 hours the evening before worming them with the Equimax the next morning...and dont feed them the next morning neither.
Wait 3 hours before feeding them AFTER worming. Then feed them only a little at a time, gradually increasing their feed intake throughout the afternoon and eventually back to normal feeding routine. If you dont do this, they will gorge their feed because they will be starving. Then you'll end up dealing with impacted crop or impacted gizzard. Not good.

Keep in mind that your birds can get re-infected with tapeworms. Insects are the hosts for tapeworms. Although not all insects are tapeworm infected.
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[SBaltz]

I've dealt with tapeworms. Valbazen has lost its effectiveness in treating poultry tapeworms.
You need to buy Equimax equine paste at a feed store and only dose birds that are excreting the tapeworm segments aka proglottids. The Equimax will be in the Equine section.

Dosage is 0.15ml per pound or 0.15ml for a 5 pound hen.

You can use a syringe without a needle to withdraw and measure the amount of the soft paste from the large preloaded Equimax syringe with plunger provided in the box. Or give it best guess and put a dab on your finger and give it orally to each tapeworm infected bird. You must give it orally via syringe without needle or by finger, and individually in order to be effective.

It's entirely possible that you might see white broken up pieces of tapeworm excreted in feces or maybe thin strands almost like jellyfish tentacles excreted in feces. IF you see them, it means that the praziquantel did its job and killed the tapeworm(s).

It's also possible that you might NOT see anything at all. That means that the tapeworm was absorbed as protein in the digestive tract.

Once you dose the tapeworm infected birds, keep an eye on the excretions for the first hour. That's when you'll tapeworm pieces or strands actually excreted.

It's best to withhold feed from your infected birds 2-3 hours the evening before worming them with the Equimax the next morning...and dont feed them the next morning neither.
Wait 3 hours before feeding them AFTER worming. Then feed them only a little at a time, gradually increasing their feed intake throughout the afternoon and eventually back to normal feeding routine. If you dont do this, they will gorge their feed because they will be starving. Then you'll end up dealing with impacted crop or impacted gizzard. Not good.

Keep in mind that your birds can get re-infected with tapeworms. Insects are the hosts for tapeworms. Although not all insects are tapeworm infected.
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I must have misunderstood a comment you gave me in another thread on this, because I thought the valbazen still mostly worked for tapeworms. I reread the post, and I see how I misread it, but since I am in the middle of treatment, should I continue with the Valbazen through its course or not give the second dose and switch to the Equimax for my one bird?

 

[SBaltz]

So I feel really dumb asking, but how will I know that the tapeworm is gone?

 

[dawg53]

I must have misunderstood a comment you gave me in another thread on this, because I thought the valbazen still mostly worked for tapeworms. I reread the post, and I see how I misread it, but since I am in the middle of treatment, should I continue with the Valbazen through its course or not give the second dose and switch to the Equimax for my one bird?

Use the Equimax now.

 

[dawg53]

So I feel really dumb asking, but how will I know that the tapeworm is gone?

I explained it to you in my post #6 above, the 3rd paragraph and the sentence afterwards. Also you wont see no more segments in feces.