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[Chicken poppy]

This thread? I was sloppy. I've been sloppy and shortcutting all day.

A bit of advice, which you are certainly free to disregard.

Like you, I lack experience. I've only been at this 18 months or so, I have just 70-odd birds, mostly mutts, inclusive of two handfuls of Pekin ducks. I've been an NPIP participant and a registered business in my State less than a year. There are several BYC forums which I read, but never commment on (or comment rarely, with substantial caveat to indicate my inexperience) - Bird Identification, Genetics, Breeding to the SoP, "Help, my bird is Sick/Injured", Predators and Pests, etc. On those topics, my extremely limited experience is an anecdotal opinion, not worthy of any weight or reliance. Even my own feeding program, over a hundred pounds a week, maybe gaining experience rapidly, but it will be years before I can draw much conclusion from it. Right now, I'm still identifying variables.

...and yet, I'm gaining some respect and recognition here on BYC regarding poultry feeding, though I'm not an avain nutritionist, I hold no degrees in livestock management, and have (essentially) no experience. My opinion deserves no weight on its own, I have no personal authority on which to base it. All of my "authority" comes from the efforts of others.

So WHY do people read my posts (mostly) approvingly? I offer the limits of my knowledge and acknowledge those limits, I explain my thinking, I link my sources, I show my work, I welcome additional information which broadens my knowledge, and I accept correction (mostly).

Its up to the reader to decide whether or no those things have value to them.

At times, I make a passable attempt at being a decent human being. Mostly, I'm not fit for human company except in very small doses.

I'm not an Aart, a CMom, a Kiki, a RoostersAreAwesome, a 3KillerBees, an Egcessive, Wyorp Rock, Overo Mare, NatJ, Tre3hugger, or any of at least two dozens others whom I learned greatly from THEIR experience. All I have is my reputation for trying to be an honest broker of information.

You don't have to do it "my" way, there is no *one* "true" right way. But there are thousands of wrong ways, and, I submit, you might learn a bit from my example.

Also, you dont seem like you lack experience at all, you seem exactly like you know what your doing. you have very good knowledge.

 

[topochico225]

This thread? I was sloppy. I've been sloppy and shortcutting all day.

A bit of advice, which you are certainly free to disregard.

Like you, I lack experience. I've only been at this 18 months or so, I have just 70-odd birds, mostly mutts, inclusive of two handfuls of Pekin ducks. I've been an NPIP participant and a registered business in my State less than a year. There are several BYC forums which I read, but never commment on (or comment rarely, with substantial caveat to indicate my inexperience) - Bird Identification, Genetics, Breeding to the SoP, "Help, my bird is Sick/Injured", Predators and Pests, etc. On those topics, my extremely limited experience is an anecdotal opinion, not worthy of any weight or reliance. Even my own feeding program, over a hundred pounds a week, maybe gaining experience rapidly, but it will be years before I can draw much conclusion from it. Right now, I'm still identifying variables.

...and yet, I'm gaining some respect and recognition here on BYC regarding poultry feeding, though I'm not an avain nutritionist, I hold no degrees in livestock management, and have (essentially) no experience. My opinion deserves no weight on its own, I have no personal authority on which to base it. All of my "authority" comes from the efforts of others.

So WHY do people read my posts (mostly) approvingly? I offer the limits of my knowledge and acknowledge those limits, I explain my thinking, I link my sources, I show my work, I welcome additional information which broadens my knowledge, and I accept correction (mostly).

Its up to the reader to decide whether or no those things have value to them.

At times, I make a passable attempt at being a decent human being. Mostly, I'm not fit for human company except in very small doses.

I'm not an Aart, a CMom, a Kiki, a RoostersAreAwesome, a 3KillerBees, an Egcessive, Wyorp Rock, Overo Mare, NatJ, Tre3hugger, or any of at least two dozens others whom I learned greatly from THEIR experience. All I have is my reputation for trying to be an honest broker of information.

You don't have to do it "my" way, there is no *one* "true" right way. But there are thousands of wrong ways, and, I submit, you might learn a bit from my example.

I always thought you were an expert, lol

Your responses are always interesting, well thought out, and well worded.

 

[Chicken poppy]

I always thought you were an expert, lol

Your responses are always interesting, well thought out, and well worded.

Agreed.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Also, you dont seem like you lack experience at all, you seem exactly like you know what your doing. you have very good knowledge.

and as I've just explained, its a carefully crafted illusion, maintained by choice of language, choice of when to engage on a topic (and when to remain silent), investment in time researching to form an opinion, then supporting it with appeal to the authority of others. I might, by virtue of training and genetics, be able to do it faster than others, but almost anyone can do it. There's no secret to it at all. I've laid the whole playbook out before you. Just takes effort.

Its a useful life skill, regardless of topic.

 

[Huntmaster]

and as I've just explained, its a carefully crafted illusion, maintained by choice of language, choice of when to engage on a topic (and when to remain silent), investment in time researching to form an opinion, then supporting it with appeal to the authority of others. I might, by virtue of training and genetics, be able to do it faster than others, but almost anyone can do it. There's no secret to it at all. I've laid the whole playbook out before you. Just takes effort.

Its a useful life skill, regardless of topic.

And very well worded as usual.

 

[Kiki]

If you had already read this thread, sorry. I tried my best to make sure everything was right, ill be sure to clarify certain things next time.

You really don't need to go back and delete all of your posts. You are messing up each and every thread by doing that.

It's ok to not know everything. There are a lot of us that don't know a lot of things.
Most all of us are here to learn and it's ok for you to learn too. Others reading here can learn along the way too but when you remove things it throws the whole thread off.

 

[Mrs J]

Its what BYC is about. Happy to help. Get some sleep.

Good morning I have done a bit of research this morning based on the information you gave me. You are absolutely right, nutritional values are very vague, that’s if they are given at all! I have decided to go with the Fancy Feed company, based on nutritional information, they seem the best option. Thank you once again, you have made a chicken mummy very happy! Have a great day!