Yeah... my BE cockerels WERE with the flock until I took them out b/c of their lack of dating manners. These boys are totally uncouth. So, now I'm letting them (one at a time) visit with about a dozen girls, free range in the evening, and it's not going so well. I'm sure I'm being too much of a softie, and should just let Goliath (the one with better coloring, form and size) out with the girls, and go back inside for a dish of ice cream, perhaps some pie to go with it... and a good book to read.