Great pic thanks for that. Ive been plying around with some ideas while waiting for a response, The heating element I have will heat up to a max of 190F with no air flow, as soon as I turn the fan on the temp on the element drops drastically to 85F I'm also thinking that with the ambient temp at 69F this will probably come up once the door is back on. Any thoughts on recycling old nob and tube insulators or ceramic light fixtures instead of buying anything. my goal with this incubator is to spend $0. So far so good, Ive been told I tend to be a bit of hoarder but I don't believe this to be true, I dint keep garbage, Everything is shelved to I can identify and find by quick glance and save only stuff that's not truly garbage. Sometimes I even pull stuff apart to keep the good stuff and get rid of the garbage so as to not clutter to much.