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So I had to go out and add boiling water to the chickens water this morning. Stupid cold snap. It's supposed to be in the 50's next week, so I was holding off on getting heated waterers, but if it really gets down to 17 tonight, I may have to do something. I'm afraid of fire, so I really don't like the idea of any kind of heating element in the coops. I may have to suck it up and figure something out. Did any of you have frozen water issues this morning?

Mine was frozen in the dish part and just starting in the holder itself. I just broke off the ice in the dish and it was fine it was inside an unheated/lite coop. The meaties have a light in their coop and it was enough to keep their water from freezing. The turkey waterer was frozen had to bust it up and refill.
 
Brr, it's cold this morning...

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The frost is pretty, though. :love

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So I had to go out and add boiling water to the chickens water this morning. Stupid cold snap. It's supposed to be in the 50's next week, so I was holding off on getting heated waterers, but if it really gets down to 17 tonight, I may have to do something. I'm afraid of fire, so I really don't like the idea of any kind of heating element in the coops. I may have to suck it up and figure something out. Did any of you have frozen water issues this morning?
Yup, the buckets were frozen. That's okay, though, because they needed refilled anyway. I do have a heated bucket, but I'm thinking of pulling it apart and making the heated base for a gravity waterer like Leahs Mom posted a while ago. Less chance of a hen falling in and ending up with frozen feet. Yes, this will need to be plugged in. I am wholeheartedly against heating the coop for multiple reasons beyond the potential fire hazard, but when you can't be there to refill their water as it freezes, you have to do something for them to make sure they can stay hydrated. The best thing you can do is to make sure you dust outlets and cords regularly, and check the length of the cord often to make sure you don't have any wear or tear. If there isn't electricity available in your coop, make sure you use an outdoor extension cord that is rated for the amount of electricity that you will be running through it.
I posted this from last year in the DIY thread but posting it here too regarding heating the water heaters. This is what I made last year. *************************** [COLOR=008000]Base Water Heaters[/COLOR] And the base heaters I made from heated dog bowls last year. Will probably use again with these glass waterers this year but I also have a different idea I'd like to try too. I needed to rig something to keep water from freezing on the broody side of the hen house with the vintage glass waterer. I also used these under pie pans with fermented feed in them to keep it from freezing solid since I put out a bunch when I go out to work in the morning for the whole day. [COLOR=FF0000]I first thought about making a "cookie tin heater" or a light bulb and block but decided not to do that as I feel that they may pose a fire risk for various reasons. [/COLOR] Instead, I decided to use the heating element from a heated dog bowl. That way, if my experiment doesn't work - or when I'm done using it - I still have a heated dog bowl to use! Double duty and [COLOR=FF0000]these heat elements are designed to do the job already and wired correctly to handle the jo[/COLOR]b..[COLOR=FF0000].[/COLOR][COLOR=FF0000]I feel the risk of fire is much lower using these elements. [/COLOR] They also have the thermostatic control built right in so I don't have to purchase another item! So...here we go. Here's the water bowl right from the farm store. $14.99 Here's the bowl after I removed the heating element. Here's the heating element. I believe the part in the center is the thermostatic heat sensor. It will only heat when the temperature drops below a certain degrees. I think it upper 30's on these. Under the heat element is Styrofoam for insulation and the plastic base that normally sits under the dog bowl. Here is a cookie tin I picked up at Good Will $0.75. Notice that the top has a rim that will catch water if I have a leak. It was just the right size for the heater base....this is VERY COOL as I purchased it the day before I picked up the dog bowl and had no real idea that it would fit. I think that was Providential...just sayin' :) I used Duct tape to attach the cookie tin lid to the heater base. Here you see the plastic bottom-side of the heater base which is normally under the dog bowl. When completely taped down, the duct tape is fully covering the edges so that no water or shavings can get in there. In the hen house: Here is is with an evil plastic waterer base before I got the vintage glass bases. :gig These bases only run 50 watts.
It was noted that the bottom won't sit flat on those because of the cord, etc. [COLOR=FF0000]It won't sit flat on a surface without a little more "tweaking".[/COLOR] When it's used on the dog bowl, they have recessed it in. The bowl actually sits on the bottom rim of the bowl and there is a cut-out in the rim for the cord to go through. You can see it in this photo...the cut out is at the top left on the outer rim; the heat part sits up in the inner circle part.
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Being somewhat lazy and not wanting to build anything else :p , I did a couple of easy fixes for this. 1. I got 2 bricks or patio blocks, set them side by side with a gap between them, and let the raised part and cord sit down in the gap. That way the flat part of the base was resting on the blocks and the raised parts weren't causing things to "rock". 2. Just set it on a block (as in the photo in my post) with the cord and uneven stuff partly hanging over the back. If the cookie lid had a taller edge, it could just sit on the rim like the dog bowl but you'd have to make a cut-out in the side for the cord. Oh...and I did try using a flat cookie tin lid on one of them but the chickens knocking things around like they do, the pans tended to slip right off of them. That little raised rim on the cookie tin lid helped keep things from sliding off. And not all heated dog bowls are created equal. Some of those heat bases are made differently so they may have different challenges than this one.
 
Just plugged mine in last night :D

2 Waterers and 1 for fermented feed that I put in a pie pan. But will reduce that to 1 waterer soon. Just had 2 while I had little ones.

And FWIW, I am always nervous about the electricity too. I run an extension about 200 feet from the pole building over to the coop. Not the best scenario
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Would a typical plastic 1 gallon water like this one fit down inside one of those blue heated dog bowls? I hang their water in the coop usually because they are spillers. I though the higher sides on the heated bowl would keep the water from spilling out.
 
That's great! I have a small batch of chicks that will be moving out to the garage. I will admit, I prefer not to have chicks in the house lol.
I like having them inside so I can watch them but as they get bigger they get smellier and the work it takes to keep the house free of the barn smell is not worth it. But this cold weather did mean a heating issue. I had them under normal lights in my basement but now they are back under heat lamps to keep the temps somewhat close to what they were used to. So it is not saving me money to move them out but at least most of the smell is gone and I'm not going to have to change wood chips every other day. That gets costly too. I don't use the tree trimmings in my brooders in the house as the tree trimmings have bugs. So I have to break down and buy the bagged pine shavings and at $5-6 a bag it adds up.


its on you tube!
Do you have a link to the chicken history video? I'm not the best at searching you tube and I could not find it.

So I had to go out and add boiling water to the chickens water this morning. Stupid cold snap. It's supposed to be in the 50's next week, so I was holding off on getting heated waterers, but if it really gets down to 17 tonight, I may have to do something. I'm afraid of fire, so I really don't like the idea of any kind of heating element in the coops. I may have to suck it up and figure something out. Did any of you have frozen water issues this morning?
The outside duck pond had a 1/2 layer of ice on it. It broke really easily and the ducks hopped right in. Took me by surprise, I did not think they would like icy water.
As for the adult chickens they are constantly drinking from the dunk pond so I did not even check the other waterers that were outside. The only indoor water right now is in the brooder pens and it was not frozen due to the light. I place the waters directly under the light.
 
I went ahead and bought 2 of those blue heated dog dishes. They were 20 dollars compared to 50 for a chicken fountain. I just filled them with water in the coops. The large fowl have no problem using it since they use the alpaca trough anyway. The silkies Im not sure about yet. They may be too short. Its supposed to be 17 degrees tonight, so it's worth a try. I finally put my rope lighting and timer for the morning up is th LF coop. The little plastic holders that it came with work really well for the cord on the heated bucket too. Threw some straw down for everybody and put some tarps up in drafty places.

I got some updated pics of the three large fowl chicks. They are 5 weeks today. I think I have a roo and two pullets. The EE x SL/Wyandotte I think is a roo. The SL/Wyandotte I think is a pullet, the Minorca x SL/Wyandotte is still iffy. My camera made their combs a bit pinker than they actually are, but the EE mix is bigger than the other two, bigger legs, and pinker comb. Strange comb. It will be interesting to see how it develops.











 
rope lighting. I had forgotten about that. Thanks you for mentioning it. I will be looking for it to go on sale as my new coop could use some lighting for the adult chickens once I clear out the chicks and their heat lights.
 

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