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Does anyone know how young is to young for ivermectin pour on wormer and how much do I use on adult silkies? Where do I apply it? This is my first time worming them.
 
I did not really think about it, but I paid more than $3 a pound for each of my female goats. The ones I got from the Columbus breeder were larger between 40 and 50 pounds. They cost $200 each. So I guess I paid between $4 and $5 per pound. I don't think I'm going to mention that to DH.

But consider the price of a breeder quality chick not sexed at $5 that would be a huge price per pound as tiny chicks weight hardly anything at all.

You've got me curious now. How much does a 3 month old meat calf cost? How much do they typically weigh at 3 months? How old are the calves when processed for steaks and such not just ground beef?
 
I'm finally staring to sort through my chickens to see who's staying for winter and who's not.

Here are some pics of one who is too pretty to process. He's pretty small too.
His mom is a Silver Phoenix hen, dad is my Egyptian Fayoumi roo. His appearance is all Phoenix though, beautiful long tail feathers.
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Here is his brother, same size and look. Tail feathers a little shorter.
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If anyone is interested in them, please let me know.
 
Sorry to hijack the thread with a bunch of cattle stuff. Feel free to skip if cows aren't your thing :)

I won't have an exact price till the weight is known the rough estimate is between $1000 and $1500 per side.  The side I'm getting in October will be cheaper per pound compared to the may side I'm getting as I requested an older animal for just ground beef for October.
To get an idea of prices for a just the right age to butcher for steaks, you can look at the archer's processing website.  Their Greenwood location is selling a side of beef at $3.69 per hanging pound but they have not updated prices since march on their website.  The archer's processing place in fishers is offering a coupon or special for semi free pork. 


I am getting GRASS FED beef (raised naturally with no pharmaceutical inputs and no grain) for $2.62 hanging weight.  The good thing about my source is that they are a a low-line cross so they are relatively small and don't "break the bank".  The last side I purchased (in August) was about $525 total.

I also have them give me all the livers, tongues, hearts (which are included for free since they just dump them) from all the cattle that are being processed from my source farm.  We either eat it ourselves or use it for the chickens in the winter when they can't get bugs.


Thanks for the info! Leah's Mom that's an AWSOME price for grassfed beef! We've bought our freezer beef from a friend for the last 6 years and have always paid live weight to him and then our butchers bill. I was curious as this is the first year I've raised my own and was just wondering how other people paid for theirs :)

:( only a lot of leads that perish when they are supposed to deliver. If I get a cow, I am going to start breeding. Bull calves too! This has been crazy! Bottle calves $3 a pound is the best I am finding. Talked to my old neighbor in Anderson, he told me the same. There are no calves less than that out there. My neighbor just stopped in and asked too. He is even going to auctions! I told Mel if he sees a Jersey or Brown Swiss please bid on her if she looks healthy. Same for Jack my my neighbor here, that covers 2 county auctions. Its terrible to resort to auction cows.


That stinks! Defiantly be careful with the auction!! If I hear anything different I'll let you know.

You've got me curious now.  How much does a 3 month old meat calf cost?  How much do they typically weigh at 3 months?    How old are the calves when processed for steaks and such not just ground beef?


So it REALLY depends what you're buying and who from but...
I'm getting ready to buy some weaned 3 month old red angus heifers for $2/lb they'll be about 300 lbs. It looks like feeder steers are going for about the same at auction right now. Beef breeds usually are finished between 12 and 16 months old.

I think it's going to be really hard to find cattle for a while. Beef prices are rising quickly and grain prices are finally coming down so most people are hanging on to what they've got.

I got to hear an ag economist speak at the conference I was attending this week, very interesting!!
 
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Sorry to hijack the thread with a bunch of cattle stuff. Feel free to skip if cows aren't your thing
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Thanks for the info! Leah's Mom that's an AWSOME price for grassfed beef! We've bought our freezer beef from a friend for the last 6 years and have always paid live weight to him and then our butchers bill. I was curious as this is the first year I've raised my own and was just wondering how other people paid for theirs
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That stinks! Defiantly be careful with the auction!! If I hear anything different I'll let you know.
So it REALLY depends what you're buying and who from but...
I'm getting ready to buy some weaned 3 month old red angus heifers for $2/lb they'll be about 300 lbs. It looks like feeder steers are going for about the same at auction right now. Beef breeds usually are finished between 12 and 16 months old.

I think it's going to be really hard to find cattle for a while. Beef prices are rising quickly and grain prices are finally coming down so most people are hanging on to what they've got.

I got to hear an ag economist speak at the conference I was attending this week, very interesting!!

And with how high feed prices have been in recent years a lot of people let their herds dwindle, so they are busy building their own stock back up. I want to raise Yaks some day. They are more efficient eaters and produce super lean meat, can be raised on less land and are much hardier. Plus they are cute and you can ride them
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Guys, I have what may be a problem! I came up short in my roll call tonight and finally found the missing hen, Sora, huddled in a nest. Looks like she may have been there all day. She was soaked down her belly and her vent feathers were matted with straight water and whitish droppings. Her comb is flopping over and she seems a bit dazed, although that could just be because it was after dark. I honestly have no idea what could be wrong and I am not finding anything similar when searching for these symptoms. I didn't see her walk, but she stood on the perch just fine. She has not lost any weight. Any thoughts? I mean, it could just be something that passes overnight, but I'm concerned because she is a red sexlink, a little more than 4 years old, which unfortunately is within the 'danger zone' in my past experience with red sexlinks, the time when most of them have had issues and passed away as a result. I want to get on top of this as soon as possible!

Take her in and keep her warm. Give her electolytes.. look her over for an unseen injury. There is a stress factor there you have not found yet. :hugs Hope she is ok. Anytime a bird hides, its not good.


Looked her over good and didn't see anything. I got some vitamin/electrolyte water in her, but couldn't get her to eat this morning. She's out and about this afternoon and must be eating again because her droppings look a bit better, still loose but not sticking to her feathers anymore. She's dozing a lot, but is otherwise okay and her comb has stood most of the way back up. I think she got into something she shouldn't've. We had a junk bucket filled with, among other things, nasty old sunflower seeds and oil from an oil change, and some of it was spilled accidentally yesterday. Well, it was cleaned up as thoroughly as possible, but there's still the chance that we missed some, and of course the girls wouldn't know better than to leave sunflower seeds alone, nasty as they were. I'm betting she found some sunflower seeds from that spill and it upset her tummy. :/ At any rate, it looks like she's passed it on through and is improving at this point. :fl
 
And with how high feed prices have been in recent years a lot of people let their herds dwindle, so they are busy building their own stock back up.  I want to raise Yaks some day.  They are more efficient eaters and produce super lean meat, can be raised on less land and are much hardier.  Plus they are cute and you can ride them :D


Yup :) or sold out all together! Yaks huh? Interesting, can't say that I've known anyone that owns a yak :)
 
Skittles Dolores Your little Poppy looks like my Dolores. (2nd pic) She was the 1st chick hatched on my mom's birthday, so shares the name. Has yours started laying yet? Mine all sleep in the same coop, but the younger ones use the lower roost. At 17 weeks, the Olive Egger simply moved up to the big girls' roost & started hanging with them. A day or two later she started laying. Took me by surprise so young. Like you, I tune into my daily chicken soap opera & enjoy watching who is getting along with whom. Lately, my hen group & pullet group are merging into one flock. (For most of the summer they free-ranged in 2 mini groups.) My pullets just turned 20 weeks earlier this week, so I'm hoping to see some blue eggs soon. Do you like the Legbar personality?
Beautiful young ladies! :love Poppy's far from laying, just starting to get some color in her little comb, but that's interesting about your OE! My Poppy's about 18 weeks old now, I think? 4 months by the day (I got her at 3 weeks, but she was hatched around May 12 if I remember right). She and the other babies slept in the addition since they were about 2 months old, but I guess Poppy just decided she wanted to perch with the big girls. Who knows what they think? :lol: Poppy's a bit reserved when it comes to my attention, doesn't much like me touching her or anything. I think it's because of her age when I got her, she didn't get the chance to bond as closely to me as the other babies that I got as day-olds. I'm not sure if I can comment on friendliness, but she's a very durable and clever young lady and I like her very much. :)
My 6 mth old hen just hatched out 3 and is doing great with them, the only thing I worry about is that the temp as droped this week and I hope she can keep them warm and still eat and such. Do you guys think I should cover the pen and put a 40 wt bulb on the outside of the pen pointing in? or do ya think they will be ok with the chilly temps ?
Can anyone tell me why my Rooster has this red streak down both of his legs? None of the others have it.
You don't need to add heat. The mamma will keep them warm. I had a broody hatch in the hen shed on New Year's eve, temperatures between 13 - 19 F. and raised them there outside with no added heat. On the legs - assuming there is not an infection anywhere on the feet or legs, roosters naturally have redder pigment in the legs when they are sexually mature.
Agree (on both points). Momma's all the heat that the babies will need. :)
Does anyone know how young is to young for ivermectin pour on wormer and how much do I use on adult silkies? Where do I apply it? This is my first time worming them.
I don't know about how young is too young for Ivormectin, but I've used it on as young as 4 or 5 month old babies. The dose is 1/2 cc for LF and 1/4 cc for bantams and youngsters, but since Silkies are usually pretty large, I'd go somewhere in the middle for them.
 
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I gave it more than a passing thought. But that drive would be a long one for us. And this may sound funny to those who don't want to personally know their processed meat. But we talk to "our" cows as we drive by their grazing area. DH passes them on his way to work normally 5 times a week unless there is a flood warning. Me and the children pass them about once a week when I head to the grocery store. We only talk to them from the car so they never really hear us. Still the children have great fun watching "their" cows get bigger.

We do the same thing. "Ours" are raised by my neighbor across the highway and when they are on the N pasture, we can see and wave to them. Have done that for years. Glad to hear it's not just us!
I am getting GRASS FED beef (raised naturally with no pharmaceutical inputs and no grain) for $2.62 hanging weight. The good thing about my source is that they are a a low-line cross so they are relatively small and don't "break the bank". The last side I purchased (in August) was about $525 total.

I also have them give me all the livers, tongues, hearts (which are included for free since they just dump them) from all the cattle that are being processed from my source farm. We either eat it ourselves or use it for the chickens in the winter when they can't get bugs.

My neighbor raises about 20 steer a year. All grass fed, no grain no antibiotics etc. We paid $2.78 lb last year for our cow. As long as we let them know when we pick up our cow, they will have one for us each year. Our half cow last year was around $700. It's wonderful to have a great source to get our meat from! I actually have them ground the tongue and liver into my hamburger, then any extras (from the other cows whose purchasers don't want them) we get those free. Bones too. Makes some awesome stock.


Can anyone tell me why my Rooster has this red streak down both of his legs? None of the others have it.
Hormones! He is loving life atm!


Well both of my chicks that I helped hatch have turned out to be little boys. Just my luck! Cute little buggers. Anyway I'll post some pics once I get out there and take some lol.

My turkey poults are doing very well. They are 2 months old now. For those of you with turkeys, any of you feed fermented feed? Just wondering how long I need to keep their feeders full and when I can get them on the am/pm feeding?
 

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