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[iamfivewire]

we only have 12 chickens . . . . ..

 

[Leahs Mom]

Sorry about the unpleasant pic below, but I figured we've all seen nasty chicken poop before. If anyone has an idea for me to research, please let me know.

@Faraday40
This looks like what I was seeing with a hen a couple years ago. She was apparently experiencing egg peritonitis or internal laying. She would stand by herself in a corner sometimes in the "penguin like" stance...other times she would cruise around with the flock but always not with the normal healthy food competition behavior. She would occasionally look like she was going to get better, then she'd end up in a corner again, or just laying like you describe. Was eating, but not well.

The poo photo you are showing looks like I was seeing. Sometimes with the white and yellow that looks like yolk.


I kept hoping that she would get better but, honestly, I let her suffer much longer than I should have. Tries several things but we ended up having to cull. Never had a problem like that before and never have since. She had the same husbandry a all the others...I think it is probably a particular weakness with a particular bird.

I had 2 chicks from her eggs (she was a ba...chicks had a sfh father) that are alive and healthy today.


Not sure if this is what you have, but if it is the case they usually don't recover.

It it is EGG BINDING (which is different from peritonitis or "internal laying"), sometimes it can be a calcium issue and a shot of calcium can help with the addition of warm soaks to help pass the egg.

Here are a few links you can look at:

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p...uctive_system/egg_peritonitis_in_poultry.html

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p...gg-bound_or_impacted_oviducts_in_poultry.html

This has symptoms of several of the issues and might help determine for an overview:
http://simplelifeainteasy.blogspot.com/2012/03/egg-yolk-peritonitis-diagnosing-sick.html

Egg Binding:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-treat-egg-binding-in-chickens.html
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/egglaying-troubles-eggbinding-and-vent-prolapse.html




If this is what you have, giving wormers, cocci meds, etc. will only weaken her more and make her feel more sick.

Edited to add another link.

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

Thank you!!! If you are looking for any Ameraucanas I found a lady in Columbus that breeds and shows 4-H she has black, blue and white.... PM me if you want her contact info

Aw, thanks for the offer! Columbus is pretty far for me, though.

Does it have a pea comb and feathered legs? Kind of looks like a young Brahma to me, maybe a Brahma mix? My first impression with that picture is male, based on the comb and how the feathers are growing in. :/

He does have a peek home and feathered legs

Yeah, I think he's a Brahma. It should become more clear as he grows if he's pure or not, but there's definitely some Brahma there.

If the legs are feathered It very well could be a brahma! If so, thats normally a very calm rooster and a good addition to a flock.

Yup, and they're BIG guys, too! Someone shared this picture of one on Facebook the other day, a Light Brahma rooster. I may or may not now desperately want a Brahma for my flock...

lol not a BCM I have a few chicks that were supposed to be one thing and have turned out to be another.... If it were me I would go with SLW, although thats still allot of white???? IMO I wouldn't think Brahma too much black. Probably oing to be one of those wait and see chicks I still have a few I'm waiting to grow out to see. These were supposed to be SLW... lol NOT!!!! But totally surprised and very happy that they are BCM!!!

Brahmas come in darker colors as well, so that doesn't rule out him being a Brahma. For instance, Dark Brahma cockerels at this age tend to be black with white patches. As for your birds... They don't really look like BCMs to me... :/ Maybe black sexlinks? BCMs should only have copper color in their necks, not their chests and backs.

Ok I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a mystery chick I could use some help figuring out what she could be, Then I couldnt get the pic's to load, so I'm going to try the pic's again would be allot easier to guess if ya can see what she looks like. I cant get the other to load and they were better pic's, sorry. the breeds I have are, hens: Lt. Brahma's, White Rocks, Welsummer that are laying. Roosters: Partridge Rock, Welsummer, BR/Welsummer cross. I just cant place what this could be if not a Partridge Rock???? In the photo's she looks Brown but those are different shades of red. The chick fuzz is brown. Maybe I just have a mutt... lol which is ok as long as it is a hen. Have too many roosters as is.

Cutie! My best guess for what you're describing is Welsummer / Partridge Rock, but it'll be easier to tell what the baby's mix is once it's older. I'm so glad to be active here again! I love having so much to reply to every day!

 

[SallyinIndiana]

...... I thought of the 2 legged 5 finger discount possibility. But the last time I posted about someone taking a rooster of mine, I never heard the end of other animal possibilities. The turkeys that "flew" off were mostly female and my prettiest ones too. But it would have been hard to pick those out in the dark.
So many possibilities but I don't want to invest in security cameras. I have thought about getting a gate for the driveway but that would not truly stop a person wanting to steal a bird or few.

 

[Faraday40]

Cuddles Update:
I check for an egg with a gloved lubed finger. (Index finger went 1.5" with no egg felt.)
I removed feed last night & her crop felt empty this morning.
She pooped runny 2x last night. Second one was greenish.
Not eating, but drinks a little.
I mixed a gal of Corid water; she drank a little,.
Much less activity today. Not really walking around. Not "talking" to me in her usual way.
Her gut feels bloated/full/heavier than it should.
Comb is still red/ normal-looking

 

[SallyinIndiana]

Cuddles Update:
I check for an egg with a gloved lubed finger. (Index finger went 1.5" with no egg felt.)
I removed feed last night & her crop felt empty this morning.
She pooped runny 2x last night. Second one was greenish.
Not eating, but drinks a little.
I mixed a gal of Corid water; she drank a little,.
Much less activity today. Not really walking around. Not "talking" to me in her usual way.
Her gut feels bloated/full/heavier than it should.
Comb is still red/ normal-looking

Adding something sweet to the corid water might help her drink more. Maybe sugar or honey. If the egg broke inside before being laid, it could have caused an infection. If your hen has a prolapse, then its possible that this could reoccur. We cull for prolapses or stuck eggs.

But another option might be that she is trying to go broody. Broody hens act funny and start their sitting on eggs a bit fat sometimes. If she is going broody, she would not be laying eggs. If it is her first time to go broody she might be a tad confused about what is happening. I have seen some milk confusion in house cats that first time they have kittens, and in one of our goats that kidded at a young age. Maybe it can happen to a first time broody chicken too.

 

[Candy442]

Cuddles Update:
I check for an egg with a gloved lubed finger. (Index finger went 1.5" with no egg felt.)
I removed feed last night & her crop felt empty this morning.
She pooped runny 2x last night. Second one was greenish.
Not eating, but drinks a little.
I mixed a gal of Corid water; she drank a little,.
Much less activity today. Not really walking around. Not "talking" to me in her usual way.
Her gut feels bloated/full/heavier than it should.
Comb is still red/ normal-looking

adding that her gut is full looking is more worrisome and indicative of reproductive issues. How old is she? Still...Corid in her water should not hurt her at all. Is she in a quiet place by herself?

 

[chick rookie]

Aw, thanks for the offer! Columbus is pretty far for me, though.
Yeah, I think he's a Brahma. It should become more clear as he grows if he's pure or not, but there's definitely some Brahma there.

Yup, and they're BIG guys, too!

Someone shared this picture of one on Facebook the other day, a Light Brahma rooster. I may or may not now desperately want a Brahma for my flock...

Brahmas come in darker colors as well, so that doesn't rule out him being a Brahma. For instance, Dark Brahma cockerels at this age tend to be black with white patches.

As for your birds... They don't really look like BCMs to me...

Maybe black sexlinks? BCMs should only have copper color in their necks, not their chests and backs.


Cutie!

My best guess for what you're describing is Welsummer / Partridge Rock, but it'll be easier to tell what the baby's mix is once it's older.






I'm so glad to be active here again! I love having so much to reply to every day!

That is one huge chicken!!!!!! WOW!!!!

As for the BCM that's just the closest guess I have so far, I'm gonna wait till they get almost laying and and see what gives.

The chick???? Well the more I think about it the more I am like you and think she has to be a mix and I wont know till she grows a bit. I think she is pretty tho. As long as she stays a she... lol




The last Silkie egg finally hatched, its 6 days behind the others, do you think I will be able to slip it under one of the moms tonight? or will it be left behind/have trouble keeping up. Mom keeps the chicks pretty busy during the day always on the go someplace.

 

[Faraday40]

Cuddles Update:
I check for an egg with a gloved lubed finger. (Index finger went 1.5" with no egg felt.)
I removed feed last night & her crop felt empty this morning.
She pooped runny 2x last night. Second one was greenish.
Not eating, but drinks a little.
I mixed a gal of Corid water; she drank a little,.
Much less activity today. Not really walking around. Not "talking" to me in her usual way.
Her gut feels bloated/full/heavier than it should.
Comb is still red/ normal-looking

Adding something sweet to the corid water might help her drink more. Maybe sugar or honey. If the egg broke inside before being laid, it could have caused an infection. If your hen has a prolapse, then its possible that this could reoccur. We cull for prolapses or stuck eggs.

But another option might be that she is trying to go broody. Broody hens act funny and start their sitting on eggs a bit fat sometimes. If she is going broody, she would not be laying eggs. If it is her first time to go broody she might be a tad confused about what is happening. I have seen some milk confusion in house cats that first time they have kittens, and in one of our goats that kidded at a young age. Maybe it can happen to a first time broody chicken too.

adding that her gut is full looking is more worrisome and indicative of reproductive issues. How old is she? Still...Corid in her water should not hurt her at all. Is she in a quiet place by herself?

I'm still pretty worried about her. Things are just not right. This chatty girl loves her food & is barely eating & very quiet. Poops today were runny. She drank on her own, but probably not enough. I have her separated but moved her box to the garage so she doesn't get a chill in our cool basement. I did a warm bath soak mid day before I moved her out.

We've had a couple broody's & I'd give anything if that's all it was. Like I said, I'm worried. She doesn't look at death's door like some of the Cocci & Egg Peritonitis pics I've seen, but her behavior is all wrong. Here's a pic I took yesterday when I 1st noticed her behavior change. (She would normally be in my face begging for treats.)

 

[SallyinIndiana]

if not broody and not egg laying issues, my next guess would be bugs. Not so much lice as those eat feathers and are not blood suckers. But fleas and mites, mosquitoes, pestering gnats,... if not bugs then maybe mice. Anything that could be decreasing her blood supply.