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Hay everyone!!! I am starting my first chickens and coop this year. Building our coop currently. All my chickens have had a summer condo in a run Aka a very large dog house. There happy. But we have had some problems. I started off with only 6 chicks. Worried and nervous that will all I have on my plate I may find chicken raising too much. My hesitation has resulted in some issues. We took a class at big R where they did tell us you may in up with a Roo. But they made it seem like it rarely happened. Still I was actually excited when one seemed to be a boy. Here we were my happy little clutch and I when a few weeks ago a easter egger I was sadly and obviously thinking was a girl decided to clear the issue up. Walked up to me, looked up and crowed. ....... I should have noticed this earlier. He is very fancy. Most animals the boys are fancy. I have a lady who is supposed to pick up my other rooster tonight. But now im down to 4 hens...... I hope. And they never tought in the class or have I come across that you need at least 8 hens per rooster. :( where can I get hens this late in the year? Can I still get marans, blue and olive eggers?
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Yes, you can find chicks or started pullets. As far as hens per rooster, I try to keep at least 4 hens per fella. I watch, if I start seeing bare backs, its time to put aprons on or take the fella out. I also watch how the rooster treats the hens. If he is a bully and too rough for them. Hens will squat for a rooster that treats them well. If doesn't call them to eat, and let them eat first I start looking at if he is the right rooster for my flock.

Update on MY COCKEREL STORY.....

A recap...

The flock has 5 adult hens.

I had 2 groups of chicks this year. (Note to self...never again unless they are all the same age and brood together.)



Each group had 6 birds, ration 3:3 female/male. I "was" planning on keeping a cockerel from each group. Oldest group SFH; Younger group, Buckeyes. Both quality breeder stock.

Approximately 5-6 weeks apart in age.


I was able to re-home one of the guys in the shf group to an all-adult flock of hens for a flock roo. So far his new home is reporting that he's doing very well for them. Another good story of a cockerel coming in to adult hens!


The boy I had intended to keep became very aggressive and bad mannered. He couldn't be trusted around the younger chicks. He even attacked one of them full on, legs forward like an eagle. Not good. So I gave the second sfh boy a chance and it was not good but in a different way. Neither of these guys had the demeanor of the previous sfh roo I had. But they had competition of the brothers and my other sfh was an "only cockerel" with no adult roo in the flock. I think I probably could train one of them but don't want to do that with the little Buckeyes coming up behind. I've kept each of the sfh boys penned separately since. They leave tomorrow morning. If I want an sfh I can get one in the spring.

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So after tomorrow, I'll still have 3 Buckeye cockerels that are 14 weeks old.

I've been trying to decide whether to remove 2 of them to a pen a bit away and just grow them for meat or if anyone wants a flock roo, thus giving ONE of the boys the opportunity to interact with the flock as the only roo. I'm leaning toward doing that, and I have a pen I can use if he needs a little away time that is right in the flock.

If anyone has advice on this I'd love to hear experiences and thoughts.

Having trouble trying to decide which I should keep in the flock, however. They're so young that they are still "chicks" in their behavior so there's no telling how they will be when the hormones kick in. They are very sweet personalities at this point.
Buckeye sure do mature slowly. Mine are still chick minded too! What a gentle breed, I am really enjoying them. My DILs fella was fully matured and still a big lap chicken, literally a pet. Same line of birds. He also gave his life protecting his hens, thats a pretty awesome rooster. You could try the rotational swapping, but you really won't know until they begin to realize they are boys. Thats when you can really choose who should be your rooster. Watch for the cowing and chest bumping. Docile or not, hormones will eventually kick in.
 
Quote: There honestly is no 1 proper way to keep chickens aside from basics...food, water and shelter. Everyone has found ways that work for them and may not work for you. Its awesome you are looking for opinions, wtg!
But as far as roosters go, I can sure help with that! I keep several breeds of chicken as do many other members on our thread. Priority one for me regarding roosters is they must be human social and friendly, if not they are gone.. From there, they have to treat my hens well. The hens are mine, he is just living with them, lol! My roosters have 4-6 hens each, and if I see any injuries or issues that rooster is pulled from the coop. After he passes all those hurdles, I then look at type. SOP (standard of perfection) To try to follow what the APA feels is a quality bird. Honestly though, I breed toward what I want to see in my chickens. Hens are expensive to replace, most roosters are free. I currently have 6 adult roosters and several cockerels growing up. The adult boys have breed specific coops with hens of their own breed. We are a working farm, so I hatch my own birds pretty much year around for eggs, our table and breed coops.

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I understand. I just gave up my best rooster. Made me nervous but everyone swears the underdog in my coop will step up to the job. But I still wonder if he will be as good. I hope it works out for you. I bet separating them will help. Vying for rank tends to make animals aggressive.
Usually yes, the beta rooster will take the place of the alpha. Keeping a beta rooster may also backfire, but it depends on your reason why you chose him and how he treats your hens..
 
Update on MY COCKEREL STORY.....

A recap...

The flock has 5 adult hens.

I had 2 groups of chicks this year. (Note to self...never again unless they are all the same age and brood together.)



Each group had 6 birds, ration 3:3 female/male. I "was" planning on keeping a cockerel from each group. Oldest group SFH; Younger group, Buckeyes. Both quality breeder stock.

Approximately 5-6 weeks apart in age.


I was able to re-home one of the guys in the shf group to an all-adult flock of hens for a flock roo. So far his new home is reporting that he's doing very well for them. Another good story of a cockerel coming in to adult hens!


The boy I had intended to keep became very aggressive and bad mannered. He couldn't be trusted around the younger chicks. He even attacked one of them full on, legs forward like an eagle. Not good. So I gave the second sfh boy a chance and it was not good but in a different way. Neither of these guys had the demeanor of the previous sfh roo I had. But they had competition of the brothers and my other sfh was an "only cockerel" with no adult roo in the flock. I think I probably could train one of them but don't want to do that with the little Buckeyes coming up behind. I've kept each of the sfh boys penned separately since. They leave tomorrow morning. If I want an sfh I can get one in the spring.

****

So after tomorrow, I'll still have 3 Buckeye cockerels that are 14 weeks old.

I've been trying to decide whether to remove 2 of them to a pen a bit away and just grow them for meat or if anyone wants a flock roo, thus giving ONE of the boys the opportunity to interact with the flock as the only roo. I'm leaning toward doing that, and I have a pen I can use if he needs a little away time that is right in the flock.

If anyone has advice on this I'd love to hear experiences and thoughts.

Having trouble trying to decide which I should keep in the flock, however. They're so young that they are still "chicks" in their behavior so there's no telling how they will be when the hormones kick in. They are very sweet personalities at this point.

Sorry you're not ending up with a sfh roo this year. It's crazy how fast they can change. The BR cockerel that we thought was our keeper from the start got so mean, I couldn't stand him. I took him out and put him in a pen, because I didn't even want him with my flock. It was nothing but screaming from the girls all day and he also had been biting me and trying to square up with me. Things calmed down in the flock sooooo much once we got rid of our extra cockerels. We decided to keep big blue (BR) and our Australorp. Blue is turning out to be quite the gentlemen. He tidbits and I see the two boys working together. Blue is always at the front (comes out of the coop first, first dips on the girls etc), while Granger is the last out of the coop and then same order going in at night. They are successfully mating the hens now and I am already starting to see which girls are partial to which guy. Now that they figured out how to get the goods, there is less of the boys chasing each other around lol.

I hope your Buckeyes give you some clues soon. I really can't offer much advice. Taking two out could be good though. It gives you a chance to watch one and then switch out if there is a problem. At some point, you will hopefully be able to see the knight in shining armor emerge.
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Hay everyone!!! I am starting my first chickens and coop this year. Building our coop currently. All my chickens have had a summer condo in a run Aka a very large dog house. There happy. But we have had some problems. I started off with only 6 chicks. Worried and nervous that will all I have on my plate I may find chicken raising too much. My hesitation has resulted in some issues. We took a class at big R where they did tell us you may in up with a Roo. But they made it seem like it rarely happened. Still I was actually excited when one seemed to be a boy. Here we were my happy little clutch and I when a few weeks ago a easter egger I was sadly and obviously thinking was a girl decided to clear the issue up. Walked up to me, looked up and crowed. ....... I should have noticed this earlier. He is very fancy. Most animals the boys are fancy. I have a lady who is supposed to pick up my other rooster tonight. But now im down to 4 hens...... I hope. And they never tought in the class or have I come across that you need at least 8 hens per rooster. :( where can I get hens this late in the year? Can I still get marans, blue and olive eggers?
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I agree with what others have posted. You do not "have" to have 8 hens per roo. If you are really wanting to keep your roo, see how it goes with your 4 hens first. If you are building the coop right now, it will be stressful trying to integrate new birds. You may end up with a more difficult situation. Like Janet said, if there are no bare backs (when they start mating) and the rooster is being chivalrous to the girls, they will be just fine.
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I am so happy to announce.....that we got our first pullet egg last night!!!! It was a little blue one from our EE Eleanor! I sat in there with her while she laid. All the other girls were lined up watching. They were so curious as to what was going on! It was adorable.


This is my pretty girl who laid it.
 
Big thanks to @Indyshent, @ellymayRans, and @Jchny2000. Going to try removing Peep for a while to see we can knock her down a peg or two. Going to have to get creative with secure housing though. Will she be okay in a small dog crate for two weeks given adequate food, water, and a little outside play time each day?
 
Since I got the camera out....it became picture day! Time for a chick update.

Here is Blue, our boy in charge.


And our caboose, Granger.


Suki, our smallest girl, coming out of the coop.


And last but not least, some of our older group coming out from under their favorite spruce tree. These pretty girls were from ChickCrazed.


And I can't take pics of the chickens, without adding in one of the ham!!!
 
Since I got the camera out....it became picture day! Time for a chick update. Here is Blue, our boy in charge. And our caboose, Granger. Suki, our smallest girl, coming out of the coop. And last but not least, some of our older group coming out from under their favorite spruce tree. These pretty girls were from ChickCrazed. And I can't take pics of the chickens, without adding in one of the ham!!!
beautiful pics! Love the ham shot! Lol She looked as though she was having fun in a mud puddle.
 
I have sent a few PM's to folks regarding this but no replies so, I am going to post to everyone...I have discussed my issue with my d'uccle bantams in the past and I have tried to accept them for who they are, they sure are beautiful birds and the little pullet is as sweet as the boys will let her be. They don't want any of them (there are three total, 2 boys and a girl) to interact with us people. My issue is, I want interactive birds. I suppose I could be willing to just leave them alone IF they would go in the big coop with my other hens. They have all been togetherror since spring and they now interact OK but they just won't go in the coop. I am unable to get them a winterized coop. We used to have to net them to get them in their pen at night but no longer have to do that, we can just simply walk them in when we lock everything up at night. So that is a plus....I am really wanting to find them a home. I know most folks don't want boys, but I truly believe these boys are going to be good roosters. One of them has already called the girls to safety from a hawk TWICE and he STOOD GUARD over them right in the line of sight and retrieval of the hawk. I was able to get out there in time both times but I am sure he would have been snatched. Also, my hens had always went around the front of the house to cross the road and would forage in the woods over there, they now stay around back all the time. They don't technically obey the boys fully yet as they try to keep the girls away from me and the girls want my attention but they seem to be falling into a natural dynamic with the boys.
PLEASE if anyone else is interested or know own of anyone that may want them, please PM me. I would love for them to go soon enough that they have time to integrate with new family by winter. I PROMISE they are not mean (yet) one male has recently been more forward with me now that the hens are allowing the bantams to be around them but he has not shown any agression. He tries to herd them away from me, or he will herd me away from them.
 
Hay everyone!!! I am starting my first chickens and coop this year. Building our coop currently. All my chickens have had a summer condo in a run Aka a very large dog house. There happy. But we have had some problems. I started off with only 6 chicks. Worried and nervous that will all I have on my plate I may find chicken raising too much. My hesitation has resulted in some issues. We took a class at big R where they did tell us you may in up with a Roo. But they made it seem like it rarely happened. Still I was actually excited when one seemed to be a boy. Here we were my happy little clutch and I when a few weeks ago a easter egger I was sadly and obviously thinking was a girl decided to clear the issue up. Walked up to me, looked up and crowed. ....... I should have noticed this earlier. He is very fancy. Most animals the boys are fancy. I have a lady who is supposed to pick up my other rooster tonight. But now im down to 4 hens...... I hope. And they never tought in the class or have I come across that you need at least 8 hens per rooster. :( where can I get hens this late in the year? Can I still get marans, blue and olive eggers?

Rural Kings (RK) often have chicks starting in the spring. Some stores choose to keep selling them longer than others, but I've yet to see one that actually has them all year. So long as you don't have a HOA mandating how many of what kind you have, you're free to get whatever chickens you feel like owning. I've really cut down on how many breeds I'm keeping, but Easter Eggers (EE) are definitely the one that's staying. On at least some occasions, I've had pink, mauve, cream, sky blue, spearmint, speckled, brick red, and milk chocolate in my egg basket. It's delightful for me, and the colored eggs have so far been the only ones anyone's willing to pay for here.

Thank you! Yes I understand it wont be easy but I already planned on integrating 6 more next year. This just makes this happen faster. I was happy to get a rooster because we were told this would help integration. I wont get more hens until we finish the new coop and move the run to it. Then there will be plenty of space. Til then ill just study up on integration tips. The lady who picked up the rooster said I should visit rural king and that they have chickens all year. Doesn't sound right but ill look.
I guess different people different experiences? They said I had to have 8 or get rid of both roosters. Not just one. But you are the second person today to say that's not right. I would like a few more hens. 4 are not giving me many eggs for 6 person household. I am going to have to deal with integration sooner or later. but I guess I dont have to worry over having 8. thanks all!


Dose anyone know of a ok and not ok to feed to the chickens list? Everyone here keeps saying feed them anything but I don't trust that idea. Other than feed they have been getting garden tomatoes, watermelon rinds. herb cuttings. I tried to add protein with the cat food suggestion and when they were not impressed with that gave them some salmon which was a win.
Chickens generally know what's okay to eat and what isn't okay to eat. They nibble foods they don't know, and if it makes them sick, they stop eating it. Some foods are toxic to people and/or other mammals but are NOT toxic to birds. Poke is one such case where birds eat it fine even though it's toxic to mammals. Provided ample plant alternatives, chicken poisoning is exceptionally rare and nothing to worry about. There are things which are toxic to them that aren't to us as well (such as painkillers ending in -caine). Most "toxic lists" consist only of plants which could possibly have an adverse side effect on mammals, and many of the plants on such lists are actually beneficial for birds.

You don't need any set number of hens to any set number of roosters. Some roosters have incredible sex drives; others don't. It's all going to depend on the boys as individuals. If your hens are popular enough to lose the feathers on their backsides, you should consider adding more hens, buying saddles for them, or reducing the number of roosters. Even with forty hens, however, some hens are "the favorites" and will likely be ridden barebacked anyway because roosters do play favorites with the ladies. Generally, at least two girls for every boy is advised, but some boys can be happy with only one girl.

Integration can be trying, but it can also be lackluster. Again, it depends entirely on the crowd of birds you're keeping. The first flock I had contained several Rhode Island Reds (RIR) and a few red sexlinks (RIR derived), and unfortunately, RIR are really, really good at recognizing the new kids on the flock and can be decisively aggressive for an extended period of time before allowing the intruders to remain alive in their vicinity. My current mixed flock, however, is a-okay with everyone, seemingly, and we regularly trade birds in and out. All summer, I've had a spate of broodies, and I get new chicks pretty much every spring. Very few problems integrating or reintegrating members here.

It's handy to have a partition through which birds can see each other before you let them have bodily contact, so consider having new birds housed in a quarantine from which your senior flock members can see them. One might even say that chickens like advance notice before company comes over and plans to stay forever as roomies.

I understand. I just gave up my best rooster. Made me nervous but everyone swears the underdog in my coop will step up to the job. But I still wonder if he will be as good. I hope it works out for you. I bet separating them will help. Vying for rank tends to make animals aggressive.
If your top roo was good to the ladies, don't bet on the underdog. Lower rung roosters tend to be more rape-y with lots of competition; however, taking away the competition isn't guaranteed to improve anything about his demeanor. Sometimes lower rung roosters can actually become more aggressive with other birds, other pets, or even humans. They can also man up and become genuine treasures for the flock. You won't know until you make the leap, really.

On the contrary, having multiple roosters keeps human aggression down in rooster populations. The more he has to compete, the less he'll care about you manhandling his ladies.
 

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