[COLOR=FF0000]Pipd - [/COLOR]Symptoms are: white discharge from eyes, and then skin around eyes is full of crusties (great medical term!). Runny noses, rasping and gurgling. Roosters not crowing. All have kind of extend their necks and open their mouths to breath. A little lethargic. I think there is a smell coming from them, but not sure if it's the eyes or their breath. I do see a lot of light colored diarrhea. It seems as if their wattles have all shrunk too.
Some chickens have no symptoms and seem fine. The turkeys seem fine as well; they always kind of hack, but I suspect they do that because they forget to take a drink once in awhile when they eat and get a little choked up.
I have been getting no more than 3 eggs a day from 11 laying birds. (I do throw them out).
[COLOR=0000CD]Webechickens - [/COLOR]I think that is exactly what happened here. I brought home a couple new birds, one had lice or mites and I quickly got that nipped. After the month long quarantine period I let them out and then everyone started getting sick.
Thanks for the help guys!
I am so sorry, I really am. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think one of your newcomers has brought in something nasty. The awful, horrible thing about quarantine is that if you follow it as written, there is no way of knowing if a bird is a carrier of a disease it may have had treated before it came into your care. The only way to know for sure is sacrificing one of your birds by putting it into quarantine alongside the newcomers. If there is something carried by the new birds that they are not showing symptoms of, then the sacrificed bird will show symptoms and you know you're dealing with something.
From the symptoms described, if there is a smell from either the mouth or the eyes, it sounds like Infectious Coryza. If not, it could be a number of other things.
Mycoplasma gallisepticum is the one most similar to Coryza from what I'm reading, and often if there are symptoms of Coryza but no bad smell, most people say it is MG. I would lean toward Coryza as MG affects turkeys and your turkeys don't seem ill. There is no way to confirm it without testing, and I'm not sure how one would go about testing their flock.
In either case, though, it leaves the birds as asymptomatic carriers for the rest of their lives, sometimes with intermittent times of shedding the disease and occasional outbreaks of it even if it has been treated and passed. With MG, the disease passes through the eggs to any offspring.
It is up to you what you do now. Many, many people say to cull the flock, thoroughly clean the coop and yard, and start new. This does not have to be the case, though, if you're willing to keep a closed flock and be biosecure.
Erythromycin treats both Coryza and MG, if you can find it. It might be under brand name
Gallimycin. If you can't find it, Sulfadimethoxine, Sulfamethazine, or Tetracycline are recommended for Coryza and tylosin, spectinomycin, and lincomycin are recommended for MG. I don't know the dosages off hand, but I can try to find them for you if you need me to. Keep in mind that even if you treat them,
they will still be carriers of the disease and infect any new chickens that come onto your property.
As a final word, I would like to mention that I have no medical or veterinary training and as such, I can't definitively say that I'm 100% right with my diagnosis. I came to this conclusion after a lot of searching and I didn't come to this conclusion lightly. If you have a vet that checks your birds, you should always trust their recommendations over mine.
Wishing you the best of luck with your birds.
I am sure around Christmas more will show up tho
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