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Lily finally laid an egg today. She is a year old this week. So those of you with silkies waiting on eggs, .............just wait longer.
Maybe reading byc helped her figure out how to lay an egg finally.
Maybe reading byc helped her figure out how to lay an egg finally.
Congratulations. Photos of her are priceless!Lily finally laid an egg today. She is a year old this week. So those of you with silkies waiting on eggs, .............just wait longer.
Maybe reading byc helped her figure out how to lay an egg finally.
Question for y'all...
I'd like to greatly reduce - or totally eliminate - legumes from my feed. (I know I've said that before.)
Therefore...I'm wondering if anyone has a good source for MEAT MEAL. I already get fish meal so I don't need a source for that. (Can only use a certain percentage of that.)
I'm not even sure if it would be as economical as just using fresh meat scraps. But I'd like to find out, so I'm looking around. I already contacted my feed mill but they quit keeping anything but the fish meal a few years ago.
So...if anyone has any leads, let me know!
I'd like to greatly reduce - or totally eliminate - legumes from my feed. (I know I've said that before.)
Therefore...I'm wondering if anyone has a good source for MEAT MEAL. I already get fish meal so I don't need a source for that. (Can only use a certain percentage of that.)
I'm not even sure if it would be as economical as just using fresh meat scraps. But I'd like to find out, so I'm looking around. I already contacted my feed mill but they quit keeping anything but the fish meal a few years ago.
So...if anyone has any leads, let me know!
Question for y'all...
I'd like to greatly reduce - or totally eliminate - legumes from my feed. (I know I've said that before.)
Therefore...I'm wondering if anyone has a good source for MEAT MEAL. I already get fish meal so I don't need a source for that. (Can only use a certain percentage of that.)
I'm not even sure if it would be as economical as just using fresh meat scraps. But I'd like to find out, so I'm looking around. I already contacted my feed mill but they quit keeping anything but the fish meal a few years ago.
So...if anyone has any leads, let me know!
Why do you want to eliminate legumes. Also, I have been told by several chicken keepers that meat is not good for chickens unless it is bugs. Am I wrong? I am really confused here.
my chickens get meat and poultry and pork. They get all the family left overs too even if it is popcorn covered in butter and salt. They love all of it. The meat is their favorite though.
My legbar just started limping. I can't see anything wrong with her at all. She's free if anyone wants to try to get her back on her foot. Message me
Yes...chickens are "meat eaters". They'll catch anything they can and eat it raw.
I often offer them high quality (grass fed), raw ground beef or venison, chopped raw liver (beef or venison) and any other meat protein I can get for a reasonable price. They get mealworms and any other bugs I can get. I've never tried to raise the black soldier fly larvae because I'm not sure we have them here in the summer. But I know another person that does them and puts all the summer harvest of the larvae in the freezer so they have them for winter.
When I bring out ANY meat or bugs, they go absolutely bonkers. It's like they are totally starving for meat.
You will find that, if given a choice, chickens will NOT eat legumes. Legumes are not one of their natural foods. And many of the legumes (including soy) are toxic to them unless they are roasted. (Soy continues to be toxic even roasted, but the roasting does help reduce some of the toxin.)
It you think in terms of natural, if something is toxic to an animal unless it is roasted, you know for sure it isn't something they should be eating (As I've said before, I've never seen them build a fire and roast anything around here
In days gone by, chicken feeds did NOT contain legumes. If a commercial feed was purchased it contained meat and bone meals, corn, oats, etc. But not legumes. The addition of legumes started with industrial farming. It "cheapens" the feed for the consumer and is a good way to make money on waste products from industrial farming (soy bean meals, oils, etc.) that they have a hard time using anywhere else. One of the bad things about this is that there are many anti-nutrients in legumes that inhibit the absorption of minerals especially...and actually leach them from the body. This is another reason that we have to add a mineral mix into the feed. Even though the minerals are there, they aren't bioavavailable from the legumes and/or seeds so only a very small portion is absorbed - if any at all. This is the same for human ingestion btw.
Okay...off my soapbox.
I often offer them high quality (grass fed), raw ground beef or venison, chopped raw liver (beef or venison) and any other meat protein I can get for a reasonable price. They get mealworms and any other bugs I can get. I've never tried to raise the black soldier fly larvae because I'm not sure we have them here in the summer. But I know another person that does them and puts all the summer harvest of the larvae in the freezer so they have them for winter.
When I bring out ANY meat or bugs, they go absolutely bonkers. It's like they are totally starving for meat.
You will find that, if given a choice, chickens will NOT eat legumes. Legumes are not one of their natural foods. And many of the legumes (including soy) are toxic to them unless they are roasted. (Soy continues to be toxic even roasted, but the roasting does help reduce some of the toxin.)
It you think in terms of natural, if something is toxic to an animal unless it is roasted, you know for sure it isn't something they should be eating (As I've said before, I've never seen them build a fire and roast anything around here
In days gone by, chicken feeds did NOT contain legumes. If a commercial feed was purchased it contained meat and bone meals, corn, oats, etc. But not legumes. The addition of legumes started with industrial farming. It "cheapens" the feed for the consumer and is a good way to make money on waste products from industrial farming (soy bean meals, oils, etc.) that they have a hard time using anywhere else. One of the bad things about this is that there are many anti-nutrients in legumes that inhibit the absorption of minerals especially...and actually leach them from the body. This is another reason that we have to add a mineral mix into the feed. Even though the minerals are there, they aren't bioavavailable from the legumes and/or seeds so only a very small portion is absorbed - if any at all. This is the same for human ingestion btw.
Okay...off my soapbox.
Thanks for the input on my chicks genders! I'll try to get pics of the rest sometime soon. They look so funny trying to stuff themselves under momma at night 
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