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[Chaneys Ranch]

I read that same statistic someone else posted about 90% of flocks having MG. It seems high to me but then I think of wild birds and just about every yard will have a wild bird visit sometime or another.

I'm sorry you got the bad news Pip. It is one of the reasons I dread the testing part of owning chickens. I have gotten the free egg testing done twice now. Each time I dread opening the results. Come June, I'll get the eggs tested again.

I have my heart set on doing it this year. Just have to remember to send in the paper!

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Does the bottom egg look fertile? Both eggs are about 3 days old.
I haven't seen a non-fertile egg in over a year. The bottom egg spot (from a pullet) looks smaller than the top one from my hen.


Close up of bottom egg:

Doesn't look fertile. These are not my pics but here is a good reference:

 

[Chaneys Ranch]

Wanted to say a quick WELCOME to anyone visiting our thread

@atrueb00 and @Mother2Hens put together this information to share with folks that would like to be added to our members & breeders list. My deepest gratitude to you both

if you want to be added to the member list, PM @bradselig or @jchny2000 (me!) We are adding a few more contributors soon. If anyone is comfortable working with Google docs and spreadsheets we would love to have you as a contributor. I will be sending a PM to those that have offered. If I missed you, please remind me!

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

Ohh. Considering the time frame I figured it was something else. Traveling with chickens is always interesting. Last month I went to Tennessee with 10 or so. Definitely makes fr a smelly trip

Haha, no worries! Yeah, and one of the two that went along was my Easter-egger, Betty, who wanted to be on my lap but kept freaking out about the trees and things flying by outside the window whenever she was there. Finally, she and Skua, the other girl that went along, decided they would rather tuck in under my legs and pretend that it wasn't happening. Poor girls, they aren't used to travel.

I don't have the mother. These are from shipped eggs. If it's a roo it will be split to chocolate and will produce chocolate off spring. If shes a girl she is just black not split. Pipd keep some Denagard on hand and do preventative treatments. There are instructions on here somewhere for the amount and frequency. You do not have to withhold eggs with Denagard, and it is amazing for respiratory stuff. I have also been doing some reading online about how it may actually wipe out MG not just treat it. Don't quote me on that though lol. There is a lot of info about a lot of things but not all of it is accurate. 

Ooooh, okay. Well, okay then, clearly I missed that part. Yes, chocolate is sexlinked recessive, so hens can only carry one copy of the gene and if they are carrying it, they show it. Since males must carry two copies before they show it, and if he's carrying two copies then one copy goes to all of his offspring no matter what the mother's genetics are, all of his female offspring will be chocolate as well. Ain't genetics neat?

Regarding Denagard and the next post:

MG is uncureable.

During my research after the fact, I actually came across several studies on Baytril possibly curing MG. Some said that birds treated hard with Baytril had been cured of MG, while others said that the results were inconclusive or their results conflicted with the results of other studies. The majority of the articles I found said it did not work consistently. It seems that it can happen, but doesn't always happen.

I will have to look into Denagard as well. All I looked into was Baytril.

Actually, that was to get the swabs done to test for MG, so... Not really. But it was interesting juggling two hens for the car ride since I didn't have anything to put them in.

I just hate that for you Pipd! When I took my pea they suggested testing but with already $180 vet bill I just couldn't afford another $75. I have many young peeps all the time it seems and I've never dealt with respiratory issues here. The two came here from SD and were in quarantine for a little over a month. Treated with baytril and the pea was good within a couple of days.

What made you think to go have testing done if no symptoms? Mine came from an NPIP cert flock but not tested for MG.

Well, after the quarantine birds tested positive, I wasn't sure what to do so I had the main flock tested as well. I figured I would at least have some idea of where to go from there depending on how the test for the main flock came back. It was crushing, but it did have the silver lining that I would not necessarily have to cull the poor little duckies and the old rooster that's in quarantine with them. I'm a softie and I really get attached to my birds, so the thought really had me torn up.

And NPIP, I'm learning, doesn't mean a whole lot... Most states actually don't require that birds are tested for anything beyond Pullorum Typhoid and Avian Influenza. Yes, these are important, but there's so many more diseases out there that are difficult to deal with whose tests aren't that difficult to run! I believe Indiana is one of few states whose NPIP DOES test for MG, as well as MS (M. synoviae, a relative of M. gallisepticum), but the only mention I could find of it was on a forum from several years ago, so I don't know if that information is still accurate.

Oh wow pip'd Kudos to you to not be afraid to discuss it too. I didn't know that ducks and geese are actually at risk of it!

I don't think it's yet been reported in geese, but yes, ducks are susceptible to it. If I remember correctly, it originated in wild turkeys before spreading to chickens. It also effects pigeons, Peafowl, and house finches (NOT house sparrows, mind you, house finches). It made the jump to ducks as a result of infected chicken flocks being kept in close quarters with them. Apparently, turkeys are affected the worst by it, and ducks the least. At least, that's what I was getting when I was reading and researching.








Good night, all! Stay warm!

Edited to add the above.

 

[hoosiercheetah]

Brr.

But the water didn't freeze. :-D

 

[ChickCrazed]

Brr.

But the water didn't freeze.  :-D

Brrrr is right! It took me ten minutes to dress but everyone seemed fine.

 

[minmin1258]

It is awful cold here!!!!! We got 6+ inches of snow then the wind started! -15 brrrrrr !!!

Found this Gigantic egg in the nest box this afternoon. It came from either "Big Momma" or "Sassy" both are anything but big birds!!!
This thing was absolutely huge!!! Poor girl! The second picture it is beside a "jumbo" egg from Willy (Leghorn cross).
Pip I'm sorry for your issues! Don't know what I'd do in your circumstance. Will keep Ya I'm my Prayers.

 

[pbirdhaven]

Lol! Yeah I made my first vet trip several weeks back when things had froze over. One Peachick about 5 mos old and a long trip to go about 45 miles took me 3+hours! It was a horrible....sitting in traffic battling the slick road conditions all the while it was pooping up a storm in the carrier! Yuk! I'm not sure but I'm pretty convinced pea poop smells much worse than chicken poop! Hahaha!

You got that right! My first peas were two pairs that I picked up in my Jeep. Give me chicken poop any time!

@pipdzipdnreadytogo I'm truly sorry to hear your news. What a hard decision to make. I'm glad you kept your girls.

 

[kabhyper1]

All the kids hunkered down for the night. Hope everyones flocks and families stay warm!

 

[Leahs Mom]

All the kids hunkered down for the night. Hope everyones flocks and families stay warm!

I see you have the ecoglow in there... Does it produce any heat for them?

 

[kabhyper1]

I see you have the ecoglow in there... Does it produce any heat for them?

It's in there for the 3 month olds in case they get cold. They are mostly buried under the big silkies. Namely my blue ro in the center lol. He thinks he is their mom. They have a Lectro brand kennel pad under them. It heats to 105 degrees and is safe to put straw and bedding over.