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[Chaneys Ranch]

Wanted to share some info about our thread for new folks posting:

 

[daskhan]

Hope ya'll  don't mind but I need to get a few things off my chest, just so its out.
 Starting in Feb. of this year to today, I have been fighting illness after illness and loosing that battle. Some of you know I do rescues of all kinds. This year has been a goat year, and a bad one!! Between goat kids, chicks and 1 dog I have 41 new graves in my back pasture. and for the pst week i have been fighting Toxemia in my remaining kids, I am about to lose 1 and am treating 3 ( those 3 are preventive )  I am just sick of people that dont take care of thier animals and if I hear 1 more person say " it's just an animal " I will most likely end up in jail!! My heart is broken into a million pieces, I have not had time to heal from any of it it just hits 1 after the other. So I have decided that after this illness is gone one way or the other, I am done. God forgive me but I cant take anymore in. this is it I quite.
 With all this going on I forgot what the date was ( bad on me ) I forgot that I was supposed to have my incubator egg start hatching yesterday, how can anyone forget a thing like that???  DH came in at 4 am and woke me from my 1 hour sleep and asked if I was ever going to take those chicks out and put them in the brooder???? I had no ideal what he was talking about!! Once awake and moving I realized I forgot the incubator!!!! I ran in to find 7 chicks alive and dry and 1 almost out.  And more still working on it. It seems I'm going to have the best hatch since I started trying to hatch my own on the day I am ready to give up.
 Now I wonder how many of this hatch am I going to loose???

What I'd like to say about this is 1.) we all love it when you vent because it's you telling us your problems showing you care about our thoughts and trust our opinions
2.) it's always good to vent it helps release stress so that we can continue to fight the good fight
3.) people who say they are just animals to me are mean hypocritical people...
To explain what I mean by that.. Although I am a religious person sorta(fuzzy on that) I also believe in evolution couldn't call myself intelligent while raising chickens and refusing evolution... But the point is we (humans) are just animals too so that statement holds no merit with me to why they should go and not the person " we need them to survive, they do not need us" also another quote I like is humans are a virus we destroy almost everything we come into contact with if someone were to only cure the planet of her sickness the world would thrive again. Now I don't always advocate the extinction of the human species but there's no good reason (in my mind) that we should hold ourselves higher then any other living creature or elemental thing we are all equal we all have our roles to play non is more important then the next(I think)
4.) if and when I get to the point I have a vehicle and a grasp on what I'm doing here I will more then gladly help you share your load of work and care. even if it's just driving up on the weekend or something to help out.. I'm also sure that I'm not the only one...hell might even count to college volunteer work or something idk... But I think there's help out there if you simply ask.. I bet we could like start a shelter or something where we all spend a few hours or days volunteering there
I thank you all for reading and I apologize if my words were to harsh for anyone or to offensive

 

[kittydoc]

Some more news on "plans" (more like "maybe plans") for HPAI this fall. The USDA/FDA are calling for companies to submit proposals to manufacture the vaccine that they know works, to have on hand if/when/where they decide to use it. This can be risky for the companies to invest in a product htat may or may not be used, but I assume the request for proposals at least uses our tax dollars to cover the cost of manufacture.

The fly in the ointment is that some countries will not import poultry/products from us if we vaccinate (a few countries, I think 10, stopped just from us having this particular HPAI battle in the spring). So there's a cost/benefit analysis. Do we worry more about our local population and producers, or do we sacrifice the exports? Some poultry companies do nothing but exports (mostly of breeding stock). I think the plan is to have it on hand for use in specific areas that have major outbreaks, like several states (MN, IA) did last year to hopefully burn it out faster than waiting until the weather makes it inhospitable for the virus again. I don't thik we'll ever see this as a widespread vaccine, but you know, things could change in the world so that in 10 years, if they make one that is effective against the worst strains, it might become routine.

Anyway, I cut and pasted the article from Reuters below:

USDA moves to build poultry vaccine stockpile for bird flu return

CHICAGO | BY P.J. HUFFSTUTTER

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The U.S. Department of Agriculture on Tuesday said it has put out a request for proposals to help the nation's veterinarians have access to bird flu vaccines for poultry this fall, in preparation for the potential return of the fast-spreading avian influenza virus.
The agency's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) has not approved the use of an avian influenza vaccine in birds, USDA said in a statement. But the agency said it wants to create a stockpile of vaccine for the Eurasian H5 strain seen in the outbreak in the United States earlier this year.
The call for proposals comes after the agency in July said it wanted to improve its handling of the nation's worst outbreak of bird flu in poultry, after coming under criticism for its response to the outbreak that led to the culling of more than 48 million birds in the U.S.
John Clifford, the chief U.S. veterinary officer, told lawmakers that the agency wanted to stockpile vaccines for poultry ahead of autumn, though officials had not decided whether to use them.
APHIS also said on Tuesday it will publish an environmental assessment in the coming weeks that examines the impacts of using such a vaccine in the field during a response to an outbreak.
"This assessment will look at two alternatives: approving vaccine use targeting EA H5 viruses or taking no action," according to the statement.
The request for proposals is available here: here

(Reporting By P.J. Huffstutter)​

 

[pginsber]

Our first baby Svart Hona chick just hatched! She’s still wet from the shell. Check out her feathers, beak, and eyes… Totally black!

I came home from work yesterday very excited to see this baby for the first time! She was MISSING.

The other fact I noticed: Mom's crop was really full.

Dunno what happened between 2 hours before I got home, and when I got home, but Mom must've eaten the chick for some reason. Did the chick die and Mom was cleaning the nest? Dunno. I don't know if poultry even do that sort of thing.

I moved Mom and remaining 6 eggs into solitaire. I'm so BUMMED!

 

[ChickCrazed]

I came home from work yesterday very excited to see this baby for the first time! She was MISSING.

The other fact I noticed: Mom's crop was really full.

Dunno what happened between 2 hours before I got home, and when I got home, but Mom must've eaten the chick for some reason. Did the chick die and Mom was cleaning the nest? Dunno. I don't know if poultry even do that sort of thing.

I moved Mom and remaining 6 eggs into solitaire. I'm so BUMMED!

Ewwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poor baby!!!!!!

 

[kittydoc]

I came home from work yesterday very excited to see this baby for the first time! She was MISSING.

The other fact I noticed: Mom's crop was really full.

Dunno what happened between 2 hours before I got home, and when I got home, but Mom must've eaten the chick for some reason. Did the chick die and Mom was cleaning the nest? Dunno. I don't know if poultry even do that sort of thing.

I moved Mom and remaining 6 eggs into solitaire. I'm so BUMMED!

Oh how terrible. I don't know if they do that either, honestly. I know they'll eat meat. When you feel the crop, does it "feel" like a chick or just normal food? If a chick, then I would get those eggs into a bator or under another broody ASAP!!!! Among cats and dogs, cannibalism of kittens and puppies is known to happen, and once it starts, it rarely stops. I'd rather be safe than sorry. I feel so bad for the chick and you....sniff.

On your other question, autumn is relevant for HPAI because that's when the wild waterfowl migrate again (this time south). It's during their migrations that HPAI is an issue. The weather is also a factor in the survival of the virus--it is adapted to survive during those same times of year.

 

[ellymayRans]

                          

I came home from work yesterday very excited to see this baby for the first time! She was MISSING.

The other fact I noticed: Mom's crop was really full.

                      

Dunno what happened between 2 hours before I got home, and when I got home, but Mom must've eaten the chick for some reason. Did the chick die and Mom was cleaning the nest? Dunno.  I don't know if poultry even do that sort of thing.

I moved Mom and remaining 6 eggs into solitaire.  I'm so BUMMED!

That is horrible! I'm so sorry!

 

[chicknmania]

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Yes they will dispose of dead chicks that way. Especially if the mother needs to stay with the remaining eggs. Usually though, they just push them off to the side.

 

[Candy442]

I came home from work yesterday very excited to see this baby for the first time! She was MISSING.

The other fact I noticed: Mom's crop was really full.

Dunno what happened between 2 hours before I got home, and when I got home, but Mom must've eaten the chick for some reason. Did the chick die and Mom was cleaning the nest? Dunno. I don't know if poultry even do that sort of thing.

I moved Mom and remaining 6 eggs into solitaire. I'm so BUMMED!

so sad, sorry to hear! We had one chick under a hen pass. We found it at the bottom of the nest so it either was crushed, stepped on, or suffocated? The hen did not know it was gone as there were three other newborns under her. No eggs were left and we had removed all the shells.
We took it out so not sure if it would have been consumed or not.

 

[daskhan]

So my preggo checked her pearikeets today and one was dead and the other was stiff but alive.. No real idea what went wrong one had small amounts of blood on her but not the other... I think maybe spider bite because she was stiff but alive my plan is to get her some silkies because she's been asking me for them but I don't know when because she's still bawling any ladies or husbands with experience please help either animal knowledge or woman knowledge would help