Is it ok to kill pest birds like finches and doves that eat your feed

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Well I have some thoughts that might help you.

Generally, when you feel something its your inner self trying to tell you something.

If you study symbiotic relationships of plants and animals, I believe you'll find better ways of doing things, and managing your farm. But I see this as an overall life quest for all of us, and not so much for any particular person being deficient.

If we could look back and see how the garden of Eden was setup for example, I'm sure we'd be able to study all kinds of symbiotic relationships and ways of getting nature and animals, and farm animals to work together in healthy ways.

So...your dove and finch problem.

I get that you probably don't want a ton of doves and finches.

However, they are providing a cleaning service for you. I know this sounds weird but consider the alternative; rats, and mice.

Would you rather have finches and doves or rats and mice?

I'm not saying you can't kill them or shouldn't. And you can take a middle ground approach.

I think birds are beautiful and interesting. They also can help you to tell if an area has predators themselves because if animal predators are nearby they will leave. (Although they won't be vocal about it in ways we can understand to tell us.)

Birds also can be an indicator that an area can support life and isn't totally dead. They generally like to be near vibrant areas with vegetation, trees, and water sources. So if you don't see any birds there, its actually a bad signal; maybe mismanagement of natural resources, stripped vegetation, chemical saturation, etc.

So...what can you do?

I think you can try to keep the food covered and not let them get too much. And you can try to keep their numbers down. Finches and doves are also better than having pigeons or crows...so it could be worse in other ways also.

Some people do eat doves. When I was a kid, I used to hear of people going hunting for doves (or wild pheasants). People don't do that kind of stuff anymore around here because the growth of the city sort of swallowed all that up, which is sad.

Finches seem kind of interesting as a bird.

I would also believe (but haven't proven myself) that finches would have less disease vectors in common with humans that they can pass onto us, than rats and mice. Basically rats, mice, and bats are HUGE disease vectors.

So you could mitigate some of the feed loss. But a little bit is OK. You could keep their numbers down but not totally destroy all of them.
 
I love finches and doves but... they are not native to the US. I live in AZ, and many tourist come here expecting to see the tumble weed of the iconic westers US movies. Thing is, the tumble weed is invasive. It got here because a train that had just 1 tumbleweed seed, now it grows everywhere. it only took 4 years for it go grow so large the Canadians of the north and native Indians of Mexico had to deal with our stupidity by bringing things here that we never should have

Also I would prefer rats over birds, my rooster would love a rat every day
 
I love finches and doves but... they are not native to the US. I live in AZ, and many tourist come here expecting to see the tumble weed of the iconic westers US movies. Thing is, the tumble weed is invasive. It got here because a train that had just 1 tumbleweed seed, now it grows everywhere. it only took 4 years for it go grow so large the Canadians of the north and native Indians of Mexico had to deal with our stupidity by bringing things here that we never should have

Also I would prefer rats over birds, my rooster would love a rat every day
Um... where did you get your info? I don't want to start anything, and I bear no ill feelings, but I like to eradicate misinformation wherever I can.:) Most doves, including mourning doves, are native to the US, unless you're talking about the Rock Pigeon, aka city pigeon. Most finches, as well, unless you mean the House Finch or House Sparrow.
Aside, by the way you've answered everyone without your view on the situation, it seems you don't really want to know what people think, so for now I'll just stay out of it. No hard feelings?:)
 
I love finches and doves but... they are not native to the US.
Both mourning doves and house finches are absolutely native to Arizona and other parts of the US.

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Mourning_Dove
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/House_Finch

Could you please post pictures to confirm whether you are killing these protected, native species? Hopefully there has been a case of mistaken identity here, and you are actually removing harmful invasive feral pigeons and house sparrows, which are fair game year round.
 
I feed them purina medicated adult chicken feed. I tried upgrading them to pellete rather than normal chicken feed, but the tiny sparrows ate the giant pellete feed for her chickens too, and they were SPARROWS. my neighbor also has those 6 doves come and eat up all her feed and she uses chicken wire and everything. I have also done everything I could too. She told me she spends 30 USD a week for giant bags of feed. Her chickens eat less than 5% of the feed, pest sparrows house finches and those 6 damn doves ate up the 95%. She has gotten so sick and tired of the sparrow and house finches she is going to give me all her chickens on april 2nd. She also has to buy different brands of food every week because of those god damn pest birds, it really stresses out her chickens. I also have a rooster and have tried to train him to attack backyard birds that come into the coop that try to eat feed but he doesn't see the pest birds as a threat... I also might delete this threat since it started a chat war
Great idea! Delete it.
Its a little trollish to come on a bird lovers website and talk about killing birds.
 

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