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Good luck with the dog show, a pic or 3 would be nice!
Scott
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Good luck with the dog show, a pic or 3 would be nice!
Scott
Thank frig it snowed...finally some moisture, finally winter back. I have come to dislike spring and fall...like summer or winter...both but not visitations of on again, off again spring or fall.
Yee Haw and slop the chooks!![]()
Everything is timed, has a season, these unseasonable seasons suck big time.![]()
Abnormal means things like fire, drought, high priced feed...yeh...springish can go away and stay away...lousing up my orderly planned plans...![]()
Showers and snow...moisture but not too much. A little moderation is in order I say, eh!![]()
Girls inspecting what needs inspecting.
They LOVE doing the inspection rounds...snow covered needs sniffing, investigation...ensure all is the same old, same old!![]()
We would call them busy bodies but well, uh...they are burning up youthful energy in a positive way.![]()
From this morn...stopped and clicked up one of the turka flocks.
Jersey Buffs - dark and lighter line...one Bourbon Red hen
Eighteen chook wings a dings...
Marinated whilst I drove afternoon bus...then doused in corn starch and...
Deep fried in oil and turned out to drip off and cook further in oven.
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Originally Posted by scottcaddy
I am a just a bit surprised that you thought that a young sales person would know the product that they are selling.
They should know, but so few have been properly trained anymore.
Good luck with the dog show, a pic or 3 would be nice!
Scott
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Fur the blue,black&tan ACDs, always used a silver chain collar, not changing that. I, myself am the most common colour palette...a winter season that is accentuated with silver toned accessories.
Keeping in mind, the dressage of the dog is to compliment the dog's appearance...not over power or look off.
So here's yer choices to voice.
For our red dog Lacy...gold or copper? For years I showed my reds with gold coated chains...and the gold colour wears off...so got several not quite gold and not quite silver chains. I have one brilliant gold one and now, found this lovely and not that common copper coloured one.
Another important point...the thicker the link, the kinder the collar. The finer the chain, the more the chain can BITE. So I do see the copper one is bigger linked and therefore, kinder to the dog neck. Why use a fine collar when a thick one is gentle to a complying dog.
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I got a kick out of Emmy's frosted whiskers - can't see them on Lacey. But your girls sure enjoy the cold and snow.
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This IS the proper shape of the breed...I don't care if you colour or pattern them as purple with pink zig zags...for any breed may be any variety. The shape of the Chant is likened to a brick, like the Rhode Island breeds...a brick with rounded corners as described by the oldtimer master chook person Fred Jeffrey's when he describes the bantam Chantecler.
Horrors of horror...lookit this monstrosity that is pictured as a Chant and has been used for far too many years...you see this shaped like a brick (I'd like to play at toss the brick at whomever decided this fray tailed, broken feathered, wing hanging, and dirty V shaped thing--where is the BACK on this bird?? the place to hang meat off of and make eggs from within space--was suppose to represent a Chantecler...because it simply DON'T). The poor thing does not even have the back of the head cut away portion that is a KEY ingredient to Chantecler breed SHAPE... Blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![]()
BRICK shape...block, the female more so than the male...a BRICK...so got that...not a V-shaped thing I keep seeing labelled a Chant...that is NOT a Chant and will never EVER be. Look it up in the 2010 APA SOP...page 21 and 22...study those figures in black and white...see the difference between vigor and productiveness...I mean the pens of Buff Leghorns resembled blocks even...back in the good old days when chickens were produced by persons in the thousands...where they went to the coop, the day of showing and plucked a few good lookers off the roosts and whisked them away to the shows and won against REAL competition of huge entries...consistently for FIVE years in a row at the GREAT shows that use to happen. The good old days, eh.
No matter the colour...you want SHAPE in it for the BREED to be correct! And for productive fowl, broad backs are wanted! Blocks, building blocks to build upon!!![]()
Some hackle clicks on some of my Chant birds here...note below the two kinds of Partridge...the red for exhibit female partridge breeder hen and the black hackle for the exhibit male partridge breeder hen...double mating at is finest! Royalty of the show ring from four kinds in two breeding pens. Hackle black is a whispered about phenomenon and if you don't have the extra black, yer partridge hens will lack in their colour pattern...jest sayin'.![]()
There are two recognized varieties in the APA and ABA standard for Chants...the White and the Partridge. People are working on the self-Buff getting recognized too...Mr. Franklin made the Buff variety in the Buff Chants.
Red Chants...it would be ludicrous to think that could be a recognized variety...you cross Partridge with Buff to get Reds...the very colour recipe is a heterozygous impure mix of two varieties, and you get the grey slate underdown form the mix of the e-series base of Wheaten (eWh) and Brown (eb).
If I hear one more time that the Partridge variety of the Chantecler is the ALBERTAN...I am gonna puke, quite literally...puke!![]()
For all the research I have done...the years of investigation...the ALBERTAN is extinct...there could be some in jolly old England from some that were shipped over thar but the Albertan was abandoned by its creator, Dr. Wilkinson in Ontario...where Andrè Auclair picked up a flock of duck footed, low vigoured birds and crossed his white Oka Chants into them to save them. From this crossing Auclair began his black Chanteclers and keep in mind that line, any breed may be any variety!
The Albertan is dead...it is a cross of Oka Whites and the Albertan Partridges that survived to this day and it is now gone...
So I got me lots of colour varieties...rainbows of colours to dazzle yer senses...![]()
Bantam Project Chant...l00k past the golden laced...see the SHAPE of the Chant
Red Pyles in both genders
I raise PARTRIDGE CHANTECLERS as per the SOP Standard for THAT breed....
A Chantecler must have some wattles...not none which tho it is more cold tolerant, is not BREED correct.
Day olds with cushion combs...
Cushion comb...a comb so welcoming other chooks MUST sit upon it
Some have NO wattles which is not correct for the breed
Read the Standard words and go for the for the most correct BREED type shape...![]()
So back to my Parti comments...I am done, period, over this silly Albertan revival that keeps rising its silly head...good gosh already! I raise PARTRIDGE CHANTECLERS...I also have other varieties of Chanteclers in the works that are blue laced, blue laced buffs, blue partridge, golden laced, blacks, buffs, red pyle, blue tailed buffs, etc. But throughout all these varieties, the SHAPE is what makes the BREED as per the Standard of Perfection for them...that and purpose and characteristics like foraging, predator avoidance, free ranging, ability to raise up their own young, fertility, productivity, disease resistance, longevity, production of meat and eggs in plenty....etc....
huge and wide for production of both meat and eggs of the happy sorts![]()
Some birds I chose shape over correct colour...she is too light in the background from a proper Parti girl
but she's a BIG gal![]()
Dark wide girlies - big dark mommas, eh![]()
Some I choose correct pattern for...correct saddle & hackle in this male Partridge is NICE
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His son... repeats the same...make more of the same
This is an Albertan above with its own Standard (which I dislike and do not mimic in my Partridge Chants)...below, this is what Chants of any variety of the many (be it white, buff or partridge or my blue laced buffs or my blue partridge or golden laced, blue tailed buffs, Red pyle, etc.) are suppose to look like.![]()
As far as the Chant being or ever likely to be extinct...learn from past mistakes. Dr. Crawford screwed up royally and he has admitted that to me...he said the Chantecler was extinct and he got a backlash he is still reeling from!
The people in the province of Quebec...where Oka is...where Bro W made the breed to begin with...have always and will always have the Chantecler...it is no big deal to the farm upon farm that has them as their chicken. The PQ farm bird is the White Chantecler. Never any worry the breed will be extinct. The article "labour of .love" states that a small group of them have applied to the province to get special status for the breed. So please, quit flogging a dead horse already. I have a friend in Quebec that has raised White Chants in a pedigreed line of over 90 years. You read that right...ninety years... No biggie or concern the Chant in any of its varieties will go poof any time soon.
Extinct...threatened...depends I guess on your definition of in trouble I suppose...I own an original copy of the 1998 Chantecler Breeders Directory that is compiled of eleven pages with about 15 persons per page...let's see, eleven times fifteen equates 165 Chant persons...for that one directory alone.
Bro W created the Chantecler for Canada...for the common folk of this land...and our temperature EXTREMES...we have here in Alberta alone, temperatures that range from -60C/-76F to +43C/+110F. Here at Pear-A-Dice, I have personally experienced temperatures from -53C/-63C to +40C/104F. I get EVER so tired of these queries about how Chanteclers are good for cold temperatures but not hot. Good golly Miss Molly already! Bro W exported his beloved Chants to South America/...to South Africa...to FRANCE...for Petesake...already...UNCLE I cry...Chanteclers that are bred right and raised here in CANADA are good for temperature EXTREMES...both cold and hot...humid and dry...for Canada is a variable country of many types of climates...from prickly pear cactus in Drumheller to igloo living at the North Pole...UNCLE already!
Word it correctly..."Chanteclers THRIVE in temperature EXTREMES" Not just long cold winters but long hot summers pending where in Canada you reside...the Chants thrive!
Read it and weep and keep it correct, eh.![]()
White Chantecler: Female (Dark Cornish Male X White Leghorn Female) x Male (Rhode Island Red Male X White Wyandotte Female) resulting Female pullets x White Plymouth Rock Male.
M. Wilfrid Chatelain (Monk at the Cistercian Trappist Monastery) of Oka, Quebec began developing the White Chantecler in 1908, presented them as a breed in 1918, and the Whites were recognized in the American Poultry Association American Standard of Perfection in 1921.