Kronos work time recording clock question - labor law?

[crazy huhn]

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No union at our place, but I was hoping for some kind of CA labor law related to those machines.
So if not, I guess we have to suck it up.

 

[blossom hen]

EC, I think that the info collected includes the number of the Kronos clock that the card is swipped in. Company I worked for had at least one clock in each department (some depts. had more than one) and employees were "supposed" to use the dept. clocks. Some supervisors were more strict about the clocking; others were not.

 

[Judy]

Talk to your local labor board, or research the website:

http://www.dir.ca.gov/DLSE/

It just depends on local law.

 

[crazy huhn]

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Thank You for pointing me in the right direction. I have always been the spokesperson of the class since elementary school and I am just trying to find out what is right or wrong here for the entire department.

 

[vfem]

Sorry hun, I'm pretty sure its dependant on your state... personally I would just do whatever the boss says. I try to get my husband to see that reasoning as well, though we don't like it either... My husband does not clock in and out, he gets a flat base pay and has been working 50+ hours a week, and is only averaging $9 an hour after all is said and done because of it, no benefits... but we're thankful he's even working after having been laid off.

This day in age, it feels like employees no longer have rights!

 

[pdsavage]

Looks like your company is trying to save some money...whats 10-20 minutes comparied to not having a job...

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

The ones I have seen each dept. had their own Kronos clock and you had to clock in there.

Steve in NC

 

[txredneckmedic]

Your boss is doing it to save the company money. You unfortunately will probably have to suck it up and get over it or find another job so they can hire the next of 20 gazillion unemployed californians

 

[tulie13]

I beg to differ with the "just suck it up" response - here's why:

If you are ON THE CLOCK and ON COMPANY PROPERTY, you are covered by their Worker's Comp insurance. If you CLOCK OUT, and then spend 10 more minutes strolling around company property, what happens if you slip and fall? You are OFF THE CLOCK!!! Sorry, honey...

This is a major lawsuit waiting to happen.

If you want to get your 10 minutes back in a "civilized way", you should check with your state Workers' Comp agency and ask them about the scenario: "If I clock out from work, but I spend 10 more minutes on company property, am I covered by Workers' Comp if I slip and fall? Or if a fork truck runs over my foot?" I'm not a lawyer, but I have worked in industry before and this seems VERY risky to either YOU or possibly to your company. Theoretically, if you are not "on the job" (on the clock) and you get hurt, I don't think they'd cover you. In that case, you can SUE THE PANTS off your company for your injuries. Your company policy is putting the company at risk. (You don't have to tell the WC people what your company's name is, just make a general inquiry).

Does your company have a "Risk Management" department? That's another place to inquire after contacting your state.

 

[mom'sfolly]

I think this might be an order from somewhere in the company to "reduce hours" and this might be the way your supervisor has chosen to enact it. I think I would check with the HR department, and ask specifically about the worker's comp thing. If you have to walk 10 minutes to your work station I think it should be on the clock. I think in the situation you are talking about the workplace is probably more dangerous than the average office building. However, if it is an office situation, and you have go through an entire building to get to your work station; I think you should clock in at the station. Walking across a factory floor to get to your work station, I would say work starts at the door.