Kronos work time recording clock question - labor law?

[crazy huhn]

Good points you all have made here. I need to drive to my local workers comp agency, as they do not take phone calls. It is worth the information.
Sometimes we even have to drive company cars after having clocked out and that does not make me feel comfortable! It is not just walking through one building to get to the work station, it is walking through 1/4 mile (estimate) of outdoor facility with heavy traffic, so tulie has made an excellent point there. What we do is, we have to swipe at the main gate at security which is supposingly for them to know who is on the facility and later we have to time swipe close to our work station.
I do not want to be a minute pincher, however it goes both ways, right? And the risk of a possible injury while walking through the facility is definetly there and has happened before.

 

[blossom hen]

Since you swipe at the main gate to indicate that you are on company property, you would be covered under worker's comp against an injury. At least, in TX. Probably in any state. The company I worked for got to the point where the type job I worked was "exempted" from clocking in the time system in the mid 1970s and we were paid as "salaried" - X$ for a 40 hr + week. Only got overtime if working officially (as in covering vacation or sick time for another employee; time for training sessions) to cover a portion of another shift or on a weekend day or holiday. By that, the extra minutes before and after the official work shift was not conpensated for the job level I was in. However, we were covered by worker's comp in case of accident. (But in this area of the country, that pay still equalled better than the ordinary job. So, we all stayed with it in spite of the penny-pinching by the company.)

 

[KatyTheChickenLady]

If you are in Ca like I think you indicated. You have resources. Call your state labor board and ask that question. AFTER you talk with them chat with a union and if you must file a grievence with HR but find out where you stand first. I imgine you can put an end to this if you are in fact in CA. If you can't and you do have to "suck-it-up", just look at it as part of your commute - leave your ipod on, enjoy sipping your coffee etc . . . read a novel while walking!

 

[kryptoniteqhs]

idk but i use kronos!

 

[Imp]

I am a Kronos editor where I work. And yes you badge can be limited to a single machine. If you start working at the front door you should be paid for that 10 minutes. If you don't start working till you get to the office 10 minutes later, I would think you shouldn't get paid for that time. Don't know many places that that pay for the time you take to get to work. Any large company won't risk a lawsuit. See your HR department, and check the law. Good luck

Imp- If they did pay for commute time I'd live 4 hours away from work.

 

[blossom hen]

 

[crazy huhn]

Quote:
Was not meant to be funny.....

Serious background.........., but thanks for everyones input.

 

[Dar]

I am in Canada and our laws are different...but here's how things work at my job...

once you drive your vehicle onto their property you are their "guest"

once you clock in you are "on the clock"

if you slip and fall in the hall before you clock in the insurance company for the nursing home will contact you and make arrangements for a settlement.

if you slip and fall in that same spot and you are on the clock then WSIB (workers compensation) will pay your lost wages at a 60%.

IMO the company is just paying you for your time you actually work, and really can you blame them?.

I have to change once I get to work, I need to take my "outdoor" shoes off and my street clothes and put on my work uniform (scrubs) and my "indoor" shoes. This 20 minutes is time I dont get paid for, it is accepted as part of the job

the reason for scrubs and indoor shoes is because I work with nasty bugs like MRSA and VRE and other antibiotic resistant lil nastys and they want to restrict the "exposure" to the general public.

 

[debilorrah]

Here in CA an employer is not obligated to pay an employee until they have clocked in. Individual departments in large companies have different time clocks in different areas. Select employees can clock in there only. With CA being VERY employee friendly, one cannot expect an employer to pay for someone to stop and get coffee and walk across the facility to their desk.

That being said, if one sued in CA, they would probably win.

 

[Cara]

I'd leave the matter well alone. There's an awful lot of people just waiting to fill your shoes, and the squeaky wheel might be the first to be removed