I do have a standard cockeral, but ended up with it while moving chicks he hatched for me and got mixed up with some other chicks of mine, I have not decided wether or not I am going to raise them or not , , as we work together with poultry, and help each other out Steve got his originals from Marion Nash in the 80's then due to a natural disaster lost them , these have been recreated through the recipe of breeding and he has worked on them for many years they are to the standard, and excellent birds...true to form . much better than anything I have seen since the last had died that Marion had. Yes I saw Marions birds too as I exhibited at the IL State Fair while marion was alive and remember them well , he was very passionate about them