Lavender Ameraucana Breeders .... UNITE

[DMRippy]

thanks he seems fine today. I may put him back with his girls tomorrow. I think I am going to sell most of my hens with him. I have some smith birds growing out and I am going to use them. I am going to breed this lavs roo to his white daughter to get some more whites to work with. he might be my backup lavs roo next season. he is so big and pretty. glad I am not going to lose him over something silly like string.

 

[AFChick]

I purchased some Lavender Am eggs a while back from a breeder on BYC that contained Shaffer, Blehm and Pips and Peeps lines- I have a trio from the eggs that made it to breeding age out of the small number of eggs purchased and I'm ok with that, personally, since I am very familiar with what can happen under the best of circumstances with shipped eggs...

What I am a little frustrated / disappointed with are their beards and muffs- the roo and one hen are very sparse in this area and the other hen is completely clean faced. The few eggs I have hatched from them, of course, are the same (sparse or clean faced). I am just now getting the time away from my other projects to work with these guys and to look for black or lav split Am chicks or started birds in my area ( GSO NC / Piedmont area if anyone here has some or knows of any available lol )

I believe, from what I've read on here, that this is the direction I should be going in with this particular project pen. I don't have photos of them at this time but am hoping to get some this afternoon/early evening to post to have their type etc critiqued.

 

[DMRippy]

I purchased some Lavender Am eggs a while back from a breeder on BYC that contained  Shaffer, Blehm and Pips and Peeps lines-   I have a trio from the eggs that made it to breeding age out of the small number of eggs purchased and I'm ok with that, personally, since I am very familiar with what can happen under the best of circumstances with shipped eggs... 

What I am a little frustrated / disappointed with are their beards and muffs-  the roo and one hen are very sparse in this area and the other hen is completely clean faced.  The few eggs I have hatched from them, of course, are the same  (sparse or clean faced).  I am just now getting the time away from my other projects to work with these guys and  to look for black or lav split Am chicks or started birds in my area ( GSO  NC / Piedmont area if anyone here has some or knows of any available  lol )

I believe, from what I've read on here, that this is the direction I should be going in with this particular project pen. I don't have photos of them at this time but am hoping to get some this afternoon/early evening  to post to have their type etc critiqued.

how old are they? chicks will lose the beard and muffs only to show up later. if they are juvies I would not worry about it yet.

 

[AFChick]

how old are they? chicks will lose the beard and muffs only to show up later. if they are juvies I would not worry about it yet.

The original trio is now around 8 months old ( sparse roo and hen along with clean faced hen). Their chicks are 3 weeks and 4 weeks (2 small test hatches - 10 chicks total). The clean faced chicks are clearly noticeable at hatch with no change to date, so there was never any beard or muffs to lose. The sparse faced chicks are identical to their parents at this stage -

It has been my experience with other breeds that your chicks are only as good as your parent stock with the occasional "crop out" beauty from less than desirable stock and the opposite holds true as well. It just gets a little frustrating when investing in stock that doesn't quite seem to measure up to the advertised photos .. and yes I know we've all been there done that lol Its been a long week already and it's only Monday

 

[DMRippy]

those genes are dominate I think so yes they should not be breed as lav ams.....sorry.

 

[pips&peeps]

I purchased some Lavender Am eggs a while back from a breeder on BYC that contained Shaffer, Blehm and Pips and Peeps lines- I have a trio from the eggs that made it to breeding age out of the small number of eggs purchased and I'm ok with that, personally, since I am very familiar with what can happen under the best of circumstances with shipped eggs...

What I am a little frustrated / disappointed with are their beards and muffs- the roo and one hen are very sparse in this area and the other hen is completely clean faced. The few eggs I have hatched from them, of course, are the same (sparse or clean faced). I am just now getting the time away from my other projects to work with these guys and to look for black or lav split Am chicks or started birds in my area ( GSO NC / Piedmont area if anyone here has some or knows of any available lol )

I believe, from what I've read on here, that this is the direction I should be going in with this particular project pen. I don't have photos of them at this time but am hoping to get some this afternoon/early evening to post to have their type etc critiqued.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...sting-pictures-and-discussing-our-birds/20910

Just posted this on the ameraucana thread, the beard and muff gene is not just a dominant gene..............

 

[DMRippy]

I think my comment was correct according to you breakdown. if they don't have a muffs and beard they don't have the genes. if they have the genes they express the beard and muffs. how much they express it tell more information. sparse has a smaller dose and full has more genes. none has no genes for it.

thanks for the link. I am not a genetic person yet...every little bit helps. are those genes an incomplete dominance gene? were you need more than one copy to really make it work right? I think dominate white is that way.

 

[AFChick]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...sting-pictures-and-discussing-our-birds/20910

Just posted this on the ameraucana thread, the beard and muff gene is not just a dominant gene..............

Meaning that I have 2 with single copies of the gene and one with no copy whatsoever, if I read your chart correctly- Thank you for making that more clear

So I'm still in the market for black and/or split chicks or juvies as well as back another few steps from where I had hoped to be with these guys... I knew I should have purchased splits lol

Seriously though, thanks guys - your knowledge is IMMENSELY appreciated

ETA photos

Clean faced hen





Sparse beard/muff roo

 

[CowGrrrl]

Hi, I'm not a breeder but I was looking around here and just have a question, can you breed clean faced to beard & muffed? And would the chicks be clean faced or bearded & muffed? Thanks

 

[DMRippy]

Ameraucanas are supposed to have the beard and muffs. most breeders would cull for those defects. if you breed your birds without the required muff and beard they would be Easter eggers.

you can get lavender orpingtons they don't have beards and muffs they also lay brown eggs.