Lavender Orpington- Shredder gene- breeding

[Minky]

Do you have any pics? Curious because ive raised a lot of birds with lavender and theyve all been pretty much the same shade.

Hopefully you can tell them apart (pics above). There is a pale grey one, an almost white one, and a medium grey one with a slightly darker collar. Then I think I also got one shot of the rooster. He is very shy.

 

[Minky]

what do

I think ideally you wouldn't use them, or you'd cross back to black for improved feather quality. Someone may have better information than I though.

what do you mean to "cross back to black"?

 

[The Moonshiner]

You have blues in your line.

 

[Minky]

You have blues in your line.

Sorry- what do you mean? are you saying these aren't lavender orpington? Is the dark one a blue orpington? is there such a thing?

 

[black_cat]

what do

what do you mean to "cross back to black"?

I believe that that means 'cross the shreddy lavender bird to a black bird'.

 

[black_cat]

Sorry- what do you mean? are you saying these aren't lavender orpington? Is the dark one a blue orpington? is there such a thing?

I think that they are lav orps. There are blue orps but these look lavender to me. I think that the blue gene is somewhat related to the lavender one, but I'm not a genetics person.

 

[Minky]

I believe that that means 'cross the shreddy lavender bird to a black bird'.

do orpingtons come in black? it would no longer be a lavender orpington then, would it?

 

[black_cat]

do orpingtons come in black? it would no longer be a lavender orpington then, would it?

No idea if there are black orps or not.

 

[LadiesAndJane]

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No idea if there are black orps or not.

Yes there are. You need them to create the lavenders, as lavender (self blue) is recessive to black. The chart you posted explains how that works. If a black bird is split to lavender, means it carries the lavender gene, though it looks black (phenotype).
Blue genetics are completely different and ideally they should not be mixed together. I am no expert in bird genetics, just from my own research and science background.

 

[black_cat]

Yes there are. You need them to create the lavenders, as lavender (self blue) is recessive to black. The chart you posted explains how that works. If a black bird is split to lavender, means it carries the lavender gene, though it looks black (phenotype).
Blue genetics are completely different and ideally they should not be mixed together. I am no expert in bird genetics, just from my own research and science background.

The chart I've posted is what came up when I googled 'lavender breeding chart' lol
I've seen it on BYC so I figured it'd be helpful.