Learn from my mistakes-

Pattymal

In the Brooder
11 Years
Jan 5, 2009
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Eastern Pennsylvania
We just finished our first hatch
Here's what I did, and here's what I learned:
A series of mistakes:

Once I decided to do this I rushed into it. I won an incubator and an egg lot on Ebay the same night.
The eggs arrived (before the incubator) I had won 13 Buff Cochin eggs- the seller sent 15 and they were well packed and arrived quickly. I inspected them- none were broken but there was a wide difference in the egg sizes. I put them in a cooler with an ice pack and kept them around 60 degrees.

When the bator arrived, I felt rushed and only gave it about 8 hours to stabilize. I also didn't allow myself time to play around with the incubator to figure out how to raise or lower humidity in a controlled manor. I set the eggs without allowing them to reach room temperature.

The first 18 days went pretty well- thankfully the bator (a LG with forced air and autoturner) did a great job at maintaining pretty steady temps and humidity. It maintained 100 degrees and 50% humidity without any wide fluctuations.

I candled on Day 17 and 12 looked good.
On day 18 when I went to take them out of the auto turner, the wells had dried up, and my humidity had dropped to 20%.
Instead of remaining calm I freaked out- quickly spritzed the eggs with warm water, filled all the wells, then I cut strips of damp washcloth and draped them across the wire with their 'tails' down in the wells to create a wicking action, before setting the eggs on and closing the lid.
Of course, my temp had dropped, so I tweaked it a bit-
soon my bator was running at 101, with 80% humidity.
Too hot, too much moisture. I removed both the red plugs to increase air circulation. I kept checking and tweaking- temps stabilized and humidity began to fall. I went to bed. Woke up- temps were Ok, but my humidity had fallen to 55%- the wells were dry already! How would I add water without opening the bator?
I ended up drizzling in water every few hours with a turkey baster onto the washcloth strips. This worked OK but again when I slept they dropped.
On day 21 we had pipping! So exciting but as soon as they started pipping and zipping my temps and humidity went wild and I made the mistake of trying to make adjustments which made things worse. At one point during hatching the wells went dry again and humidity dropped badly, then I had a temp spike so I finally decided to call it, and unplugged the bator.
We ended with 7 chicks- it's a miracle that we got any at all.
4 hatched on their own, 3 with assistance.
Remember those washcloth strips? One of the chicks got a string stuck to her leg. I was afraid it was wrapped around and I spent a good 1/2 hour trying to get it off her using a bamboo skewer poked through the holes in the bator...
They are in the brooder now-
we only have 2 fluffy yellow chicks that look like Buff Cochins, all the rest are scrawny, sickly, runty looking little brown chicks that do not look like they are Cochins at all!
Two of those cannot walk- probably those I 'helped'.
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My kids are still delighted, my hubby who was lukewarm on the endeavor has been completely drawn in, but I am just crushed.
It has been a very disappointing learning experience and should I ever attempt hatching again, I will certainly think it all through first, and start with high quality eggs from a reputable source- certainly not Ebay!
ANyway, I thought this might help some of you considering tryong your hand at hatching. Good luck to everyone!
 
Such a difference! I've never incubated before. Is it common to have so many problems? I had been thinking of doing it but had hoped it was more like the breadmaker! Put them all in and -voila- baby chicks!

What breed do you think the other ones are?
 
Well I just started a hatch for the first time. so your experience has helped me some. Didn't know there would be such flucuations. Now I'm concerned as I'm turning by hand. Plus I now realize my bator is white which will make it hard to monitor water levels.
 
I don't know if I'll ever try hatching, unless someday I build a bigger coop. But thanks for sharing your experiences, even though I'm sure it was hard for you to do. Please keep us posted on how the struggling ones do. Maybe a couple days will make a good difference. I see some fluff on their lower sides.

Take care! At least your hubby's more involved now
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My Hubby bought me an LG for my birthday back in May of this year. As soon as I got the temp and humidity stabilized I started adding eggs. I filled it up. The first mistake I made was having so many different hatch dates. I had to turn by hand so I devised a way to do it without having to have it open so long. I cut the cup part of egg cartons so that they would lean to each side. I then used sponges(the ones I used in my other bator to raise humidity) to prop up the sides of the bator 3 times a day. I bought aquarium air line and a package of the connectors that look like a T and connected them to be able to add water without opening the bator at all. How I did this is I measured how long each line needed to be to go through the screen and into each well. I was only able to connect 2 lines this way. I then conected them to each side of the T and then added a short sectin of line to the top of the T and inserted it through one of the vent holes in the lid and held it there with a cloths pin unti I needed to add water. I used a syringe that I have to inject turkey and hams for cooking to add water to through the line. You have to learn how to angle the syringe in order to fill each well withoug overfilling one and not the other. Then I used a straw for the closer well and the syringe to add water to that one. I put the close pin on the line on the outside of the lid to keep it form falilng inside.

You'll have to make sure taht the line doesn't touch the elements.

For my last batch of eggs I devised a manuel turner out of one of the egg carton bottoms and a wire hanger and poked the end of the hanger through the side of the bator and turned it by hand 3 times a day. I had to attatach a visecrip to hold it down on each side or it would turn level. All went well with the last batch. I had 6 eggs and only 2 where fertile. They both hatched fine and a day early. I plan to buy an automatic turner next time I incubate eggs. The conraption I made worked out fine but it took up alot of space.

I also set my digital thermometer/hydrometer on the egg carton bottom.

I hope that helps you. Your bator will raise humidity on its own when eggs start hatching. You can also remove water from the wells with the line using the syringe. but now the one with the straw.

Never adjust the temp if you've had the lid off or open and the temp went down. It will raise itself slowly. I made that same mistake a few times with my old bator and ruined several eggs.

Also, I learned to conrol my urge to inspect the eggs too often. I candled once a week for progress. I took the entire carton out instead of leaving it open while candeling. I don't have a candeler so I use one of those large flashlights with the big square batteries and devised a cone to fit on the top out of a 2 liter coke bottle and foil and tape. I take them into the bathroom wehre I can have total darkness to candle. Works for me.
When I candled a carton I put it back and got another one. Of course removing the bad eggs as I went.
 
The darker ones are still wet, they may fluff out and look just like the others. If they don't have fuzzy legs and feet, though, they aren't Cochins. Maybe Cochin crosses.

You learned from your mistakes, next hatch will be better, Now you know to let the eggs warm to room temp, watch the humidity close, and don't start screwing with the temps at the last minute.

My temp always drops a little when I increase the humidity. I try not to go over 55%-60%. I have a friend who doesn't add water at all for his chickens and turkeys, but mine get too dry if I don't.

When the temp drops, I leave it alone for at least 2-3 hours. If it doesn't start to come up, I give the control just the tiniest nudge up, then wait about 5 hours.

If it needs adjusting upward, I do it in the tiniest increments I can. Better slightly cool than too hot.

My 'bator leaks. I can't use the water wells at all. No holes, it leaks right through the foam cells. I added food coloring to see. So I put a peanut butter jar lid full of water in instead, when I take out the turner. I toss a bit of sponge in the lid so they can't drown in it. A folded cloth would work as well. I position it right under a heating element, so the water doesn't cool the 'bator too much, but with part of the sponge under a vent hole, so I can add water without opening the lid. Even warm water cools the 'bator some, (cooling by evaporation, is my guess) so it's not surprising the temp will drop a bit. The key is to wait for the temp to come back up as much as it's going to. I sometimes wait overnight before I adjust it up.

I just finished a hatch a few days ago. Out of 24 eggs, 23 developed, of those 17 hatched. The 6 that didn't, never pipped. They looked fine on day 18, so they died late, no idea why. I didn't open them. All 17 of the others are fine and healthy, and they all hatched with no help. Mostly Brahma crosses, fat little things!
 
This is good news--you hatched out 7 adorable babies!! My first several attempts at hatching were all bad, with no babies at all. (I was only 10 years old, but still!)

"scrawny, sickly, runty looking little brown chicks" LOL! Don't worry, they will fluff up soon, and look just as cute as the yellow ones, I promise! They don't look like cochins though, but that's ok! You should be very happy with the eggs that did hatch, and you have also learned a good lesson about incubators. I would say you did great at your first try, and I bet you will try again soon. Hatching eggs is very addictive!
 
I'm sorry you had such a challenging first time incubating/hatching! I'm brand new to this myself having just incubated and hatched one batch of turkey eggs a few months ago. I know for myself I'm trying to practice "read and heed". I read everything I can on BYC about incubating and hatching, then try to heed the advice. Hopefully I've learned something as I have over 100 turkey, duck, and chicken eggs incubating right now, and just hatched out 20 cute little chicks a day ago.

I hope all turns out well for your chicks! Mistakes help us learn and I'm sure your next batch will benefit from what you learned with these chicks. Hope you'll keep us posted and let us know how your little fuzzy ones are doing!
 
I like to let my hens hatch for me but since I do have lots of eggs I have a friend that can hatch wonderfully for me as well.
She has given me newly hatched chicks that look a bit wet still but aren't and they have grown up just fine. Some look peaked for about a week and then bloom so don't give up on them. I have had a lot worst luck with hatchery chicks.
I am sure incubators take some practice and I don't want to even try my hand at it. I am glad you are giving it a good try and don't get frustrated or discouraged too quickly.
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