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Lemon Blue saddle color genetics

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by oldschoolchick, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. oldschoolchick

    oldschoolchick Out Of The Brooder

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    I am interested in knowing what is the genetic make up of the "Lemon Blue" look. I am interested on what causes their Honey colored(light orange) hackles and saddles, could it be cream? can this color(hackle, saddle) be reproduce on black breasted blue roosters?
     
  2. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:the lemon color is obtained the accumulation of 2 factors the first one is the lack of pheomelanin enhancers(genes that enhance red feather pigments) like autosomal red/Mahogany. The second second factor is Blue(andalusian Bl/bl+) fading effect on red pigment, all of that will give you Honey colored saddle and hackles

    below rooster is a lemon blue(also called honey dunn in the game fowl circles)
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  3. draye

    draye Overrun With Chickens

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    Wonder if this would work using EE's.

    I have some solid blue EE hens that I hatched out and now I have a Copper Marans or part Copper Marans roo. Would the blue change the red and make some Lemon Blue? Just wondering, I might try it and see.
     
  4. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:I don't believe is possible, as BC Marans have red enhancers in them, you will need to get rid of them before you could have a Lemon Blue Maran..
     
  5. draye

    draye Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:I don't believe is possible, as BC Marans have red enhancers in them, you will need to get rid of them before you could have a Lemon Blue Maran..

    Okay thanks.
     
  6. Ducks and Banny hens

    Ducks and Banny hens Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Lemon Blue is E^R/E^R, Mh/Mh, and Bl/bl+.
     
  7. 1muttsfan

    1muttsfan Overrun With Chickens

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    In bantam cochins you breed blue to brown red to get lemon blue - brown red is also a game bird color. From that cross you will get some lemon blue birds. In the chicken calculator use black copper for the brown red.

    Lemon Blue X Lemon Blue = Lemon Blue, Brown Red, Lemon Splash
    Lemon Blue X Lemon Splash = Lemon Blue, Lemon Splash
    Lemon Blue X Brown Red = Lemon Blue, Brown Red
    Lemon Splash X Brown Red = Lemon Blue
    Brown Red X Brown Red = Brown Red
    Splash X Splash = Lemon Splash

    Courtesy of this thread
    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=376965
     
  8. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:Wrong. you want Mahogany out... [​IMG]
     
  9. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Don;t you also need dilute or inbibitor of gold? That has always been my understanding.
     
  10. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Brown Red with Blue added is Lemon Blue

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    Black Breasted Red with Blue added is Blue Red

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    Chris
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2011

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