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Lethargic chicken with closed eyes

donlene

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10 Years
Oct 17, 2009
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1) What type of bird , age and weight.- Barred Rock, 16 weeks, small for her age
2) What is the behavior, exactly. She is acting very lethargic, stands in one spot with her eyes closed, tail down and neck in- hardly moves.
3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma. No
4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation. She was getting bullied by an older hen.
5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all. Yes, but it seems like she has been doing so less and less
6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc. Not sure, it may be runny
7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? Nothing, she has gotten to the point where she doesnt flintch when she gets picked up she just makes cooing sounds.
8 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet? Separate her from the other birds?
9) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help. No sorry I can post one later
10) Describe the housing/bedding in use. They have a rather large coop and run- 6 birds. Aspen shavings are used as bedding for the coop. Thye are fed a mixture of scratch and laying pellets and always have fresh water.

I am not sure what to do for the last week she has just gotten worse. It started when she had just one eye closed, I thought she may have been injured by the bigger hen? But it has progressed to her just standing at one place with both eyes closed and barely moving. There is no discharge on her face or aroung her eyes.
 
WARNING! I had the exact same trouble with a hen, but she got obviously sick and died in one day! My trouble was called "visceral gout" which was caused by feeding layer ration too early. The overload of calcium gets clogged up in their kidneys, and they no longer can expel the uric acids in their system. They cannot expel the calcium unless they are already laying and 16 weeks is too early probably. Once their kidneys go, they are done for.

Of course this could be something completely different.... coccidiosis, Marek's, there's lots of things......

If the bird dies, cut it open, (or have a friend do it) and if the insides are all white, especially around the heart, you've got a case of gout.
 
Wow thats scares me because I have one laying hen and 4 birds that are older than 16 weeks, thay seems to be acting fine. I have lost a bird to Marek's before and I am sure she doesn't have it. I sure hope I am not killing the others slowly because of the layers pellets?
 
What would one do in this situation? We have mixed layer feed with finisher feed because we got some hens that were supposed to be older than 18 weeks. We were only 3 weeks off from switching our original birds to layer feed. Could this be the problem with my sick girl? If so. What do I do?

Edit to add link to my original thread. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=535798
 
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