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Lethargic Hen, not egg bound

uisceros

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Jun 2, 2022
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Hi all,

I have a 1 year old easter egger (Faverolle / Ameraucana) that all of a sudden is acting odd. She seems lethargic, moderately weak, and doesn't want to eat much. She is also very easy to catch, and while not hunching does seem uncomfortable. I did witness her defecate a little so I assume she is not egg bound (despite not laying in about a week). She is around 3 weeks out of being broody.

The weather here has been hot for the past two days (90F days, which is slightly unusual at this time of year), so I was worried about heat stress. I have her currently in my basement. I hope she's better when I get home, but I'm worried. She's always been a happy and healthy hen (except for getting bullied by the head hen a bit), so this was definitely unexpected. All my girls are on New Country Organics layer feed, with NCO scratch as a treat.

Here's the basic info:
1) What type of bird , age and weight : Favaucana (Faverolle / Ameraucana), 1 year old, standard fowl. No weight, but doesn't feel super light
2) What is the behavior, exactly : Lethargy, anorexia (for at least a day), but no hunching.
3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms? : I noticed she was acting oddly for about 3 days, but was eating before. Today she did not want to eat.
4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms? : No
5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma? : No
6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation : No clue
7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all : Drinking a little, eating not much
8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc : I only saw one poop, but it was small and yellowish.
9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far? : I gave her some crushed up calcium citrate mixed with water, and a 0.5mL dose of 10% safeguard just in case of intestinal worms. When I was administering the calcium fluid, her crop was almost "growling", like she was hungry. Her crop was empty at the time. She is currently in a small crate with water and food in my basement in case of over-heating (the last two days have been in the 90's here, which is abnormal)
10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? : Treat myself if able, but whatever works!
11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. : I'll see if I can post her poop when I get home.
12) Describe the housing/bedding in use : Not free-range (except for ~10min a day when they are allowed out of their run supervised), large coop/run combo, bedding is sanicare/dirt. I've also been using first saturday lime to coat their droppings board after I scrape their poop off.
 
How much scratch do you feed each day?
how many birds?
Any new birds?

Did she sit on eggs and hatch them?
Maybe a cup between all the birds
8 hens total
No new adults, I did just get some baby chicks about a month ago

I don't have a rooster, so no sitting on eggs. I tried to have her brood the baby chicks, but abandoned that plan.
 
Maybe a cup between all the birds
8 hens total
No new adults, I did just get some baby chicks about a month ago

I don't have a rooster, so no sitting on eggs. I tried to have her brood the baby chicks, but abandoned that plan.
I'd lay off the daily scratch and only offer it once a week.

Did you let her stay broody or did you break her?

Can you go out and follow her around and get some clear photos of fresh poop from her?

Are you sure she was broody?
 
Is her tail position up or down when she stands? Did she pluck out her chest and belly feathers when she was broody? Had she laid eggs regularly before her broody spell, and has not laid since? Could she be depressed not that she is not with her flock? Most birds will be more comfortable with the others, at least for part of the day when it is cooler.
 
I'd lay off the daily scratch and only offer it once a week.

Did you let her stay broody or did you break her?

Can you go out and follow her around and get some clear photos of fresh poop from her?

Are you sure she was broody?
Got it! I’ll give them scratch only once a week.

I let her stay broody since the plan was to have her incubate chicks. She’s broken now though. She definitely was broody.

Here’s a picture of her poop in the cage she spent the night in. I also included pictures of her walking around just now. She’s not hunching, but seems weak. I was able to get her to eat some scrambled eggs. She ate them all, and drank water.
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Is her tail position up or down when she stands? Did she pluck out her chest and belly feathers when she was broody? Had she laid eggs regularly before her broody spell, and has not laid since? Could she be depressed not that she is not with her flock? Most birds will be more comfortable with the others, at least for part of the day when it is cooler.
Her tail position is up.

She did pluck her chest and belly feathers when broody. She also had some feather loss around her neck and tail (presumably from a very dominant head hen).

She laid regularly before being broody, but has laid two eggs since being out of it. She hasn’t laid in 1.5-2 weeks.

I only separated her for a night to see if she needed a quiet space to recover. She’s back with her flock now.
 
I just noticed you've lost a lot of birds recently.
Should this one die I highly recommend you send her in to your state lab for a necropsy so you can get real concrete answers as to what you have in your flock.
Answers will help you prevent more deaths.




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https://www.mass.gov/service-details/diagnostic-testing-services
I did indeed loose four hens rather rapidly. I still have no clue what happened. One day they were fine, the next they were gone. I brought one to the vet multiple times with no answer. We ruled out parasites and being egg bound.

I tried to get the last one necropsied, but I wasn’t able to get her to a site in time.

Hopefully Ivy makes it, but if she doesn’t I’ll send her in. It’s honestly very confusing.

One thing that I’m going to test now is for lead in the soil. I was told that’s an issue in my part of the country.

I have a flock of Seramas that live indoors, and they are all doing fabulous. Makes me think it must be an environment issue.
 
Quick update:
I went to check on Ivy tonight and she was in one of the lay boxes with another (broody) hen. I think maybe she either couldn’t get on the roost bar due to weakness, or she was cold.

I brought her inside for the night, and gave her another scrambled egg, which she immediately ate. She doesn’t seem to want any normal feed though. I also mixed a bit of nutridrench into her water. I’ll also try to give her some yogurt.

Would antibiotics be reasonable at this stage? I have some aquamox, but that’s really it. I’ve been reading over some old threads about greenish poop and lethargy, and it seems it’s usually an infection.
 

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