Lionhead Colors (NEW PICTURES POSTED)

[kuntrycritters]

Here's a few more pictures.. maybe the colors can be seen better in these.

 

[Bunnylady]

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In that case, the two rabbits I was dithering on are siamese sable agouti and smoke pearl agouti. This is how I come to that conclusion:

The "C" series:

C - fully dominant, codes for both yellow and black pigment to be produced.
cchd - "dark chinchillation" (chinchilla) removes yellow from the coat, and a just a little of the black.
cchl - "light chinchillation" (shaded) removes yellow from the coat, and even more of the black.
The reduced black pigment appears a very deep brown on the "points," lighter brown on the body.
ch - himilayan (pointed white, californian) No yellow pigment, pink eyes. Black appears only on the cooler parts of the body (nose, ears, paws, tail.)
Chilling of the skin can cause black to appear on other parts of the rabbit at times.
c - Ruby Eyed White. Fully recessive, "albino" with no pigment in the hair coat at all.

That ^ is called a "ladder of dominance." Each gene is dominant to the ones below it, and recessive to the ones above. If the buck is a REW, he must be cc, the only genes he has in the C series are the full recessives. He can't be hiding any of the other genes. If the doe is a chestnut, she is expressing the fully dominant C, because she clearly shows both black and yellow pigment. She could be carrying but not expressing anything that is lower on the ladder. One of her babies is a Siamese Sable, which is the Shaded cchl (combined with the self genes in the A series.) The doe can only have 2 genes from the C series (one that came from her mother, one from her father). Since one of her babies has the cchl gene, and it can't have come from the buck (who only has c's), the doe must be Ccchl. All of her babies must get either the C or the cchl from her. Therefore, the agouti-patterned babies that don't have any yellow in their coats have the shaded gene, not the chinchilla gene, and are siamese sable agouti and smoke pearl agouti, respectively. Clear as mud?

edited for brain fade!

 

[kuntrycritters]

ummmm.....okay...lol. Hopefully some day i can figure all of that out.

I know I love the coloring on all of them, just wasnt sure the 'correct' color name to call them.

thank you for explaining that to me.

 

[Bunnylady]

Yeah, I know, sorry about that. A lot of people feel swamped by what a friend of mine calls the "alphabet soup" of rabbit coat color genetics.

The C - series is the absolute worst to start with, because it has 5 alleles (some think 6) and they interact in such odd ways. When you learn to break it down to "this gene does this, am I seeing it, yes or no, that gene does that," etc, and then go "I've got this, this, and this happening, so this rabbit must be a . . . ," it's not so bad. I have another friend who just about tears her hair out when people ask, "what will I get if I breed these two together?" A lot of combinations can result in confusing, unshowable colors, so she will probably answer that question with a firm, "Don't Do That!!"

 

[kuntrycritters]

Here's some new pictures of my lionheads ( and netherland dwarf in a few of them). I believe lionheads are going to be my favorite breed of rabbits

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