Lump, Bump, Tumor, Cyst, Abcess on Wing.

[tinychicky]

well at least you have the experience now in case you have to do something like this again

glad to hear baby's still doing well!

 

[lovemyprettybirds]

Let's hope not, Tinychicky! But you're right, I have learned a lot this past week!
I put Baby in his outside pen for today and he seemed glad to be out. It looks like he might make it, so I probably won't update his condition anymore. I took this picture of him and friends earlier today. BTW, that's the wing and even though you can't see it clearly in the picture, it's hardly noticeable.

 

[fenc777]

Hi,
I just joined this forum after using it for a while to find info. I have a chick with something similer on her wing. It is higher up on her wing than yours was. I put antibiotic ointment on it not knowing what elts to do. I think the other chicks pecked at it because now it is bleeding in several locations. I seperated her but am very worried. Do you think oral antibiotis would help?she seems to be acting normaly. I made a coat for her so she could go back in with the other chicks but she just falls over when I put it on her. Let me know if you have any ideas for me. Thank you for your previous post.

 

[BuckNBark Farm]

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[BuckNBark Farm]

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[hsilan]

Hi. Thank you for documenting and posting. Is he still alive? Im facing a similar tumor with my roo and trying to learn all I can.
Im glad you documented your vet experience - because like you - I wouldn't have been able to afford the expected HIGH cost - but what you've demonstrated here is that - "It CANT HURT TO ASK!!!" Because of this thread I now will know to ask around.
Also, in a similar thread, I notice a pattern: no initial odor, then necrosis errupts with abcsess/tumor removal. Any thoughts?
Your followup commentary on your experience is hugely appreciated. Thanks in advance.
- Helen
(Ten hens and Kellogg - my Roo)

 

[Kgriffith0712]

I hold this rooster every day and failed to notice this "thing" on his wing until it was so big it interfered with his primary flight feathers and I noticed they didn't look right. I wish I had been more observant! Anyway, his name is Baby and the problem seemed to stem from the metacarpus to the phalanges of his right wing.

I had no idea if it was a tumor, cyst, or abcess, much less what to do about it. I couldn't find anything exactly like it on this forum and after reading up on the differences between tumors, cysts and abcesses in birds, I was still not sure exactly what I was dealing with. It was squishy but firm, no detectable odor, but hotter than it should have been. If it was a tumor, was it Mareks, or a malignant disease?

It didn't look like the only picture of a fibrosarcoma that I could find:
I noticed a matted clump of feathers on Baby's body where his wing rested. Fortunately, it was not another mass, just evidence that the thing on his wing had been seeping. I thought this must mean that it was either a cyst or abcess until I learned that tumors can seep too. It would have been so much easier if I had enough money to take Baby to an avian vet! I tried soaking his wing in epsom salt water to see if it would draw any infection out. It didn't help. I learned that avian exudate differs from human exudate. Our infections tend to result in a liquidy pus while avian infections result in a caseous substance. I concluded that if it was an abcess it would require more than epsom salt soaks to get the bacteria ridden cells out of the wound.

After a couple glasses of courage (wine), I got out the scalpel and proceeded to investigate Baby's booboo more thoroughly. It would have been nice if I could have anesthetized him, but all I had was some ice to numb him a little and a soft blanket to cover his head so he wouldn't see what I was doing to him. He was very tough and brave, and fortunately, there wasn't much blood loss. Once I started to cut into it, I found a lot of residue from the infection (I think)! It was a solid, yellow substance that differed from the consistency of flesh or bone. Once exposed, It had an odor. I tried to get all of it out, cleaned the wound and put Baby to bed in my shower.
Here is some of the stuff I dug out of it:
And, here is poor Baby's wing after the surgery:


Apparently, this was an abcess. Baby seems to be doing fine and hopefully this awful hole in his wing will heal quickly. He is a 2 and 1/2 yr. old Asil, and just the sweetest little guy! Here's a better picture of him:

This was while I was just soaking his wing and not cutting on the poor little guy. Anyway, I've tried to document this the best I can because I know it might help somebody in the future.

Thank you for sharing

 

[Ntsees]

I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to share my experience for others in the future who may come along seeking information. Yesterday, I lost a very precious bird due to this same wing tumor. My bird developed this same/exact large tumor his right wing (around his metacarpus) as shown by the OP. After searching around the internet, I find that the name for this wing tumor may likely be called xanthoma(s) or lipoma. My bird developed this wing tumor a few weeks ago, and I had hoped that he would be fine. I did not want have his metacarpus amputated for aesthetic reasons. The tumor bled sometimes in which he would pick at it, and it would heal over with scars, but other than that, he was otherwise a healthy bird - eating healthy, running, chasing my other birds, etc. When I got home from work yesterday, I checked up on him and saw that he was sitting and not frightened at me like he usually was when I came near. It was unusual because he would always run away if I got too close. He was fine the day before, and when I noticed this change in his behavior, I knew something was wrong. Unfortunately, it was too late to save him. I should have had his metacarpus amputated when I first noticed the tumor weeks ago. It may have saved him. I could have, should have, but didn't.

 

[lookinforhorse]

Ntsees-I know you posted in Sept. 2019 BUT I wanted to say... do not beat yourself up! At least you tried~ Birds are so stoic in my opinion! It's sometime impossible to know that something is wrong.