Making Feed at Home

[RoosterBird]

Soyabean is easily available
Sunflower seed also easily available
Rye also

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Almonds are like Rs. 1000+ per kg
Dry fruits are expensive
But if we have to use like 100g then I can afford it

None of those are needed (or even desired).

 

[RoosterBird]

Conola seeds are also available easily

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Conola seeds are also available easily

Yes, that's Rape.

I can hit your protein targets, its the amino acid targets that make up the protein that are much harder to hit with plant sources.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

OK, here goes. I have NOT looked at other minerals, or vitamins, but here's a recipe you can start to play with. (By Weight)

5 Cowpea ("Field Peas" or "Black Eyed Peas")
10 Gram Seed
5 Millet ("Dark/Indian" or "Pearl")
10 Oats
20 Rice (White/Basmati)
10 Rye Seed
15 Soybean (heat treated or sprouted)
25 Wheat ("Soft/Spring")

That's an 18% protein mix, 4% fiber is well within the acceptable range, 4.8% fat is higher end, but still fine. Calcium and phosphorus you need to get from free choice oyster shell, calcium di-phosphate, etc.

Your Methionine profile meets minimums and is fine for egg layers, not excellent for early growth or meat production. Lysine is good, Threonine is tolerable, Tryptophan is good.

Legumes (cowpeas, soybeans, etc) have some things in them that don't make them great feeds raw - best to cook them or sprout and cook them before adding to the feed.

Any Hard "Winter" Wheat you can substitute for the soft spring wheat is an across the board improvement. If you can only get "green" or "Italian" millet, that's fine, its near identical to the dark Millet. Red or African Millet is inferior but won't make too much change in the final product. White "proso" millet is superior, but not by much. (Here in the US, its common to see red and white millet mixed together to end up with something like the Italian or Indian millet nutrition).

Brown rice can be subbed in for white, will increase (somewhat) both fiber and fat, but not to concerning levels. Rice is being used here to reduce overall fiber and fat levels.

Rye is mostly a cheap grain filler, though it helps with Lysine content. If you can't get it, or its expensive, use more spring wheat. You could also use corn in its place, but that will slightly drop protein and increase fat over 5%, which I try to avoid. If you substitute corn for rye, do not also substitute brown rice for white. and don't offer fatty trerats like sunflower seeds in any case.

I'll leave it up to you to take it from here, you want to look at Vitamin A, Niacin (B3), D3, Manganese, Zinc, Iron, Copper, etc. Not much is needed of any of those, the recipe *probably* hits targets. You likely want to add a bit of salt. Between 0.4% and 0.6% of the total mass is the target, so .5 kg of salt per 100kg of feed.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

and if you are curious about other substitutions (for reasons of cost or availability), let me know. Now that the spreadsheet is mostly built, its easy to look at an ingredient and a potential substitute and compare them (as I did for the rice, the millets, and the wheat)

 

[Perris]

@Perris care to share any of the recipes from that book? I don't have ready access to it.

sure - I can't do it now but I'll try to get back to do it tonight or tomorrow am

 

[Perris]

OK; Ussery has sample recipes for chicks and for laying hens on pasture, and 1st thing to note is that the food he supplies he views as supplemental to "a lot of green forage, wild seeds, and animal foods" (by which I assume he means mainly insects with some amphibians and reptiles and occasional birds or mammals). His is a pastured poultry system.

The layers on pasture (aiming for 15% protein; some from the grass and insects etc.) sample recipe is:
a premix (all expressed as ratios per 100lb) of
Aragonite 6.5lb,
2lb nutribalancer,
0.5lb kelp meal,
4lb fish meal,
2lb crab meal (giving total premix of 15lb),
added to ground or whole
27lb corn,
20lb peas,
28lb wheat,
10lb oats.
This is from chapter 17, Making our own feeds, pp. 160-168, with lots of discussion of the different elements.

 

[RoosterBird]

OK, here goes. I have NOT looked at other minerals, or vitamins, but here's a recipe you can start to play with. (By Weight)

5 Cowpea ("Field Peas" or "Black Eyed Peas")
10 Gram Seed
5 Millet ("Dark/Indian" or "Pearl")
10 Oats
20 Rice (White/Basmati)
10 Rye Seed
15 Soybean (heat treated or sprouted)
25 Wheat ("Soft/Spring")

View attachment 2857383

That's an 18% protein mix, 4% fiber is well within the acceptable range, 4.8% fat is higher end, but still fine. Calcium and phosphorus you need to get from free choice oyster shell, calcium di-phosphate, etc.

Your Methionine profile meets minimums and is fine for egg layers, not excellent for early growth or meat production. Lysine is good, Threonine is tolerable, Tryptophan is good.

Legumes (cowpeas, soybeans, etc) have some things in them that don't make them great feeds raw - best to cook them or sprout and cook them before adding to the feed.

Any Hard "Winter" Wheat you can substitute for the soft spring wheat is an across the board improvement. If you can only get "green" or "Italian" millet, that's fine, its near identical to the dark Millet. Red or African Millet is inferior but won't make too much change in the final product. White "proso" millet is superior, but not by much. (Here in the US, its common to see red and white millet mixed together to end up with something like the Italian or Indian millet nutrition).

Brown rice can be subbed in for white, will increase (somewhat) both fiber and fat, but not to concerning levels. Rice is being used here to reduce overall fiber and fat levels.

Rye is mostly a cheap grain filler, though it helps with Lysine content. If you can't get it, or its expensive, use more spring wheat. You could also use corn in its place, but that will slightly drop protein and increase fat over 5%, which I try to avoid. If you substitute corn for rye, do not also substitute brown rice for white. and don't offer fatty trerats like sunflower seeds in any case.

I'll leave it up to you to take it from here, you want to look at Vitamin A, Niacin (B3), D3, Manganese, Zinc, Iron, Copper, etc. Not much is needed of any of those, the recipe *probably* hits targets. You likely want to add a bit of salt. Between 0.4% and 0.6% of the total mass is the target, so .5 kg of salt per 100kg of f

OK, here goes. I have NOT looked at other minerals, or vitamins, but here's a recipe you can start to play with. (By Weight)

5 Cowpea ("Field Peas" or "Black Eyed Peas")
10 Gram Seed
5 Millet ("Dark/Indian" or "Pearl")
10 Oats
20 Rice (White/Basmati)
10 Rye Seed
15 Soybean (heat treated or sprouted)
25 Wheat ("Soft/Spring")

View attachment 2857383

That's an 18% protein mix, 4% fiber is well within the acceptable range, 4.8% fat is higher end, but still fine. Calcium and phosphorus you need to get from free choice oyster shell, calcium di-phosphate, etc.

Your Methionine profile meets minimums and is fine for egg layers, not excellent for early growth or meat production. Lysine is good, Threonine is tolerable, Tryptophan is good.

Legumes (cowpeas, soybeans, etc) have some things in them that don't make them great feeds raw - best to cook them or sprout and cook them before adding to the feed.

Any Hard "Winter" Wheat you can substitute for the soft spring wheat is an across the board improvement. If you can only get "green" or "Italian" millet, that's fine, its near identical to the dark Millet. Red or African Millet is inferior but won't make too much change in the final product. White "proso" millet is superior, but not by much. (Here in the US, its common to see red and white millet mixed together to end up with something like the Italian or Indian millet nutrition).

Brown rice can be subbed in for white, will increase (somewhat) both fiber and fat, but not to concerning levels. Rice is being used here to reduce overall fiber and fat levels.

Rye is mostly a cheap grain filler, though it helps with Lysine content. If you can't get it, or its expensive, use more spring wheat. You could also use corn in its place, but that will slightly drop protein and increase fat over 5%, which I try to avoid. If you substitute corn for rye, do not also substitute brown rice for white. and don't offer fatty trerats like sunflower seeds in any case.

I'll leave it up to you to take it from here, you want to look at Vitamin A, Niacin (B3), D3, Manganese, Zinc, Iron, Copper, etc. Not much is needed of any of those, the recipe *probably* hits targets. You likely want to add a bit of salt. Between 0.4% and 0.6% of the total mass is the target, so .5 kg of

OK, here goes. I have NOT looked at other minerals, or vitamins, but here's a recipe you can start to play with. (By Weight)

5 Cowpea ("Field Peas" or "Black Eyed Peas")
10 Gram Seed
5 Millet ("Dark/Indian" or "Pearl")
10 Oats
20 Rice (White/Basmati)
10 Rye Seed
15 Soybean (heat treated or sprouted)
25 Wheat ("Soft/Spring")

View attachment 2857383

That's an 18% protein mix, 4% fiber is well within the acceptable range, 4.8% fat is higher end, but still fine. Calcium and phosphorus you need to get from free choice oyster shell, calcium di-phosphate, etc.

Your Methionine profile meets minimums and is fine for egg layers, not excellent for early growth or meat production. Lysine is good, Threonine is tolerable, Tryptophan is good.

Legumes (cowpeas, soybeans, etc) have some things in them that don't make them great feeds raw - best to cook them or sprout and cook them before adding to the feed.

Any Hard "Winter" Wheat you can substitute for the soft spring wheat is an across the board improvement. If you can only get "green" or "Italian" millet, that's fine, its near identical to the dark Millet. Red or African Millet is inferior but won't make too much change in the final product. White "proso" millet is superior, but not by much. (Here in the US, its common to see red and white millet mixed together to end up with something like the Italian or Indian millet nutrition).

Brown rice can be subbed in for white, will increase (somewhat) both fiber and fat, but not to concerning levels. Rice is being used here to reduce overall fiber and fat levels.

Rye is mostly a cheap grain filler, though it helps with Lysine content. If you can't get it, or its expensive, use more spring wheat. You could also use corn in its place, but that will slightly drop protein and increase fat over 5%, which I try to avoid. If you substitute corn for rye, do not also substitute brown rice for white. and don't offer fatty trerats like sunflower seeds in any case.

I'll leave it up to you to take it from here, you want to look at Vitamin A, Niacin (B3), D3, Manganese, Zinc, Iron, Copper, etc. Not much is needed of any of those, the recipe *probably* hits targets. You likely want to add a bit of salt. Between 0.4% and 0.6% of the total mass is the target, so .5 kg of salt per 100kg of feed.

Wow thats great
I would definitely try this
What if I replace soft wheat with hard one or medium one?
Do I need to change quantities of other ingredients?

 

[RoosterBird]

And Thank You so much