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I 2nd that!! Of course, I'm small-time, and only been in it for a year. But it's like any other small "business" (if you want to look at it that way instead of it being a "hobby")........you've gotta sink some $$$ in equipment, pens, etc..... just to get started, then comes the feed bill, then maybe head-count loss, and so forth.............. Yeah, I'm not doubting that there's money that "can" be made, but heck, my total qty. so far since I've gotten stated is about 275 or so birds (that's from the first 50 Bobs I bought last June up to now), and not knowing the $$$ bottom line, I do know I'm bad in the red as for what I've got in the past and present birds. BUT.......I love foolin' with those boogers, and when I'm ready for some of them to be a meal, I know where some big coveys are.............and ain't gotta worry about pickin' #8 shot out of them when I bite into one