Maticoop X won't heat high enough

[jjjennejjj]

I have a MaticoopX30 and it won'y heat high enough. I have a hygrometer inside and have bben way impressed with how stable it keeps the humidity compared to my 6 Nurture 360s, but everytime I check the temp it is lower vs higher. This morning it was at 96. I keep bumping the temp up, but at this point I have it set to 103.5 and it doesn't increase the inside thermometer. Does it cycle through heat temps or is it supposed to be a consistent temperature? I did not have this problem during the dry hatch 0-18 days. It consistently matched. It only started this once I added water for lockdown. I have unplugged it for 30 seconds and it did not affect temps. Anyone got troubleshooting tips? Also, is this hatch doomed?

Conversely, my Nurture360 keep running hot. I bump it up .5 and goes up 1.5 then I lower it .5 and it goes down 1.5. I calibrated all of these before putting the eggs in. Is it possible the power supply to that one room is insufficient for 7 incubators?

 

[jwcarlson]

What temperature is it in the room and how consistent is it?

I don't know how much I'd trust onboard hygrometers, but I'd set aside the humidity issue for the time being.

It's unlikely that there's not sufficient power for the incubators. They don't typically use much power, between the fan and the heating element on most tabletop incubators, they're probably not drawing 100W each, so between the 7 of them, they are probably not drawing as much as even a space heater. Not to mention you'd be tripping a circuit breaker or blowing a fuse if it were overloaded.

Are all of the nurture's running hot or just one?

I don't know what kind of controllers these incubators have, so it's tough to comment exactly what might be going on.

On the MaticoopX, you might have to sit for awhile and watch the temp, I would assume that it's cycling high and then shutting off. Then it cools down to some temperature and then starts heating back up? What is that range?

 

[nuthatched]

Do you have a calibrated thermometer in there too?

 

[nuthatched]

Try insulation, wrap a towel around it but don't cover the air vents.
Hatch will be late but fine.

 

[Tex452]

The problem with my maticoopx 30 is the opposite, it heats too high, I have to set it on 99* to get 99.5-100*

 

[jjjennejjj]

Well, I switched the eggs mid-lockdown (pre-pip) into a Nurture 360 and 21/24 hatched, so that is great news. And in the meantime I factory reset the MaticoopX kept tabs on the
temps.
The Govee thermometer is consistently a 3-4 degrees lower than the MaticoopX reading, AND no matter how high I bump up the temp (103.5) It never reads above 99.0 on the MaticoopX-which is 95.5 on the Govee.
I ordered a replacement heating element-which IS annoying because this is my first use! Hopefully that will work because the air cells looked picture perfect, the humidity maintained precise readings throughout, and the eventual actual hatch rate was my best ever. I'm hoping I can get it working vs using the shoestring method to keep humidity consistent in my Nurture 360s.

 

[Tex452]

Well, I switched the eggs mid-lockdown (pre-pip) into a Nurture 360 and 21/24 hatched, so that is great news. And in the meantime I factory reset the MaticoopX kept tabs on the
temps.
The Govee thermometer is consistently a 3-4 degrees lower than the MaticoopX reading, AND no matter how high I bump up the temp (103.5) It never reads above 99.0 on the MaticoopX-which is 95.5 on the Govee.
I ordered a replacement heating element-which IS annoying because this is my first use! Hopefully that will work because the air cells looked picture perfect, the humidity maintained precise readings throughout, and the eventual actual hatch rate was my best ever. I'm hoping I can get it working vs using the shoestring method to keep humidity consistent in my Nurture 360s.

I have 2 NR 360 incubators and they both work really well.

 

[jwcarlson]

Well, I switched the eggs mid-lockdown (pre-pip) into a Nurture 360 and 21/24 hatched, so that is great news. And in the meantime I factory reset the MaticoopX kept tabs on the
temps.
The Govee thermometer is consistently a 3-4 degrees lower than the MaticoopX reading, AND no matter how high I bump up the temp (103.5) It never reads above 99.0 on the MaticoopX-which is 95.5 on the Govee.
I ordered a replacement heating element-which IS annoying because this is my first use! Hopefully that will work because the air cells looked picture perfect, the humidity maintained precise readings throughout, and the eventual actual hatch rate was my best ever. I'm hoping I can get it working vs using the shoestring method to keep humidity consistent in my Nurture 360s.

So, you had ~90% hatch rate in eggs that were in the MaticoopX for all except the last day or so and the Govee didn't go above 95.5 degrees? I'd be suspicious of the Govee?

 

[jjjennejjj]

So, you had ~90% hatch rate in eggs that were in the MaticoopX for all except the last day or so and the Govee didn't go above 95.5 degrees? I'd be suspicious of the Govee?

The MaticoopX consistently reported 96 degrees and would beep and flash "LO." The Govee temp was consistent with the MaticoopX which read at 99.5 for the first 18 days UNTIL I added water for lockdown That is when the temps would not heat back up to 99.5...ever. It would read 96, 97, 98, 96, 96, every 30 minutes to an hour, while the Govee read 92.5, 93, 94, 95.2, 93, 94, etc. I waited thinking it would adjust but after leaving it overnight and then trying to raise temp by setting it well above 99.5 I gave up on it. I guess the humidity messed up the heating element?

I live in Houston, and even in winter using a dry hatch method, our indoor humidity fluctuates anywhere from 20-50%. I use the wet shoestring method for lockdown in order to keep humidity from surging. The MaticoopX seems to excel at keeping humidity steady the entire time. Plus the air sacs were so perfect it seems the tilting method does a better job for me than the rolling.
It's impossible to draw scientific conclusions with so many variables.

I plan to run it dry again and see if it heats back up. If not, I will replace the heating element (already on order) and then try an other batch, knowing I can always just switch to the Nurture 360 if it fails. I'm truly hoping it was just an isolated malfunction. I posted this thread just to get feedback about other people's experience with it.

My current lockdown of 24 shipped Marans eggs; chocolate shades 7-9, which are nearly impossible to candle well, at least for me, had a rotted egg, which cracked, but didn't explode. I thoroughly cleaned every egg exposed to the circulated air with hydrogen peroxide and likewise sanitized the incubator, but, ughh! This week's hatches have had some doozies!