Maybe I'm mistaken.

[lilwanderer]

So I'm starting my own Olive Egger project, and I'll be using an Ermine Ameraucana rooster and a Crele Penedesenca hen.
With Ermine being a newer pattern, I'm having a hard time trying to figure what exactly they carry and how it would play out with the Crele pattern.
Would this particular cross still result in sexlinked chicks since the rooster isn't barred and the hen is? Or will it play out different since it's Ermine?
I have 3 chicks already from this cross, and all though they've just hatched I'm not seeing signs of barring like the typical white spot on the head- So I either got super lucky to get 3 pullets in a row, or they just aren't sexlinked.
That or the resulting ermine (the yellow) chicks from this cross won't show barring until they're feathered in?
The first three chicks in question for reference:

Now the parents-
Mother:

Father:

And just for fun, these are the mama's eggs:

 

[NatJ]

So I'm starting my own Olive Egger project, and I'll be using an Ermine Ameraucana rooster and a Crele Penedesenca hen.
With Ermine being a newer pattern, I'm having a hard time trying to figure what exactly they carry and how it would play out with the Crele pattern.
Would this particular cross still result in sexlinked chicks since the rooster isn't barred and the hen is? Or will it play out different since it's Ermine?
I have 3 chicks already from this cross, and all though they've just hatched I'm not seeing signs of barring like the typical white spot on the head- So I either got super lucky to get 3 pullets in a row, or they just aren't sexlinked.
That or the resulting ermine (the yellow) chicks from this cross won't show barring until they're feathered in?
The first three chicks in question for reference:
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Now the parents-
Mother:
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Father:
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And just for fun, these are the mama's eggs:
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I'm not seeing the barring on the hen. If she is not barred, the chicks will not be sexlinks.

But if she is barred and I'm just not seeing it, the black chick is a female.

I can't see yellow headspots on yellow chicks, so they would be unknowns: could be males with barring, could be females without barring, assuming the mother actually does have barring. It's just that adding white to a white chicken (yellow down) is not very visible!

 

[lilwanderer]

I'm not seeing the barring on the hen. If she is not barred, the chicks will not be sexlinks.

But if she is barred and I'm just not seeing it, the black chick is a female.

I can't see yellow headspots on yellow chicks, so they would be unknowns: could be males with barring, could be females without barring, assuming the mother actually does have barring. It's just that adding white to a white chicken (yellow down) is not very visible!

she does- You've actually helped me with her before with previous crossings I've done.
These aren't the first sexlinks I've done with her.
This is a Crele boy I got from one of sexlink crosses I've done in the past, father wasn't barred. He had that white spot. I couldn't find a day old picture of him.

That black one next to him in this photo is also his sister.

 

[NatJ]

she does- You've actually helped me with her before with previous crossings I've done.
These aren't the first sexlinks I've done with her.
This is a Crele boy I got from one of sexlink crosses I've done in the past, father wasn't barred. He had that white spot. I couldn't find a day old picture of him.
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That black one next to him in this photo is also his sister.

In that case, since the hen does have barring, the black chick is a pullet and the yellow ones could be either way (barred males and unbarred females, but unless you can see the barring on yellow chick down and white feathers, you won't know which are which.)

 

[lilwanderer]

In that case, since the hen does have barring, the black chick is a pullet and the yellow ones could be either way (barred males and unbarred females, but unless you can see the barring on yellow chick down and white feathers, you won't know which are which.)

Will the ermine chicks show barring on the black spots that come in?
Both of those yellow chicks are ermine.

 

[NatJ]

Will the ermine chicks show barring on the black spots that come in?
Both of those yellow chicks are ermine.

I don't know for sure, but it does seem likely that the barring would show on black spots.

 

[Frizzle and Friends]

Will the ermine chicks show barring on the black spots that come in?
Both of those yellow chicks are ermine.

If the white stripe is over a black spot, then yes. I've seen barring on a Cornish Cross that had a spot of leakage.
Pay close to any spots that appear in their feathers, and hopefully you will get your answer.

 

[Yardmom]

I have backyard mixes with several color patterns. In the mottled chicks that are also barred I will see the white dot on the dark colored heads. When grown those birds at first glance appear to have a white base with random dark spots, but at a closer inspection you can see that there are barrs without color. Apparently the Ermine is genetically different if they start mostly white, but you might be able to see barrs through the spots. Unfortunately that won't show until later.

 

[Yardmom]

Are you sure the chicks are Ermine? Im not familiar with the mutation, but less common mutations are often recessive. If they are recessive both parents have to have the gene. In order for my chicks to be mottled (looks like what you call Ermine) both the hen and the rooster need to have the gene.
If it is recessive your boy has two copies and all his offspring will carry one copy. The next generation would have more chicks with the color pattern again.

 

[AusHen]

Are you sure the chicks are Ermine? Im not familiar with the mutation, but less common mutations are often recessive. If they are recessive both parents have to have the gene. In order for my chicks to be mottled (looks like what you call Ermine) both the hen and the rooster need to have the gene.
If it is recessive your boy has two copies and all his offspring will carry one copy. The next generation would have more chicks with the color pattern again.

Ermine is heterozygous dominant white with some other modifiers that distribute the black more evenly, no mottle