Mealworm farming

Some of the pupae do not form into full beetles. They seem to do as you described, but part of the body seems to stay in pupae form. Once when I was sorting the new beetles out odf the pupae bin, I saw one that seemed to be struggling to molt for a few days. I figured I'd just toss it in with the beetels and that it was just slow like some of those ones that lie on their backs and can't seem to flip over. I put it in the beetle bin and they swarmed it and ate it alive. I guess they recognized the deformity and cannacalized it. I felt kinda bad
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Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with the big guy. I'm starting to feel bad for him. I'm afraid he is suffering, and even if he is "just" a beetle, I don't see a need for it to suffer. I've been thinking about giving him to my girls. Poor guy just hasn't made any progress.

Now that I have my first beetles, I have a new set of questions. As far as the eggs and food go, do ya'll take out moist foods when they get old, or leave them for fear you beetles have laid eggs on them? I have a piece of potato in there that they have eaten some off of, but it's starting to get moldy on top (not where in lays in the bin). I want to take it out before my beetles are old enough to lay eggs on it. But what to do when they start laying? Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?

Oh, and my two cents on the upper respiratory problems, they have children raise mealworms in schools, and for school projects. I would assume if it was a very big risk they would pick something else for fear of being sued! I haven't researched the topic yet, but I can't see them letting kids do it if it is very dangerous.
 
ok i skiped to page 593 . whers the best place to buy the worms to get started?
Go back to Page 1, there's a lovely list there. :) :)

As for the respiratory issues...as long as you show some sense and wear a mask when you stir things up, I doubt there's a major issue. But speaking as someone now on an inhaler....start smart and just don't let it get established! Keep them outside and well ventilated, wear a mask, and don't worry. :)

(Says she who just restarted AGAIN with 40,000 worms...)
 
Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with the big guy. I'm starting to feel bad for him. I'm afraid he is suffering, and even if he is "just" a beetle, I don't see a need for it to suffer. I've been thinking about giving him to my girls. Poor guy just hasn't made any progress.
Maybe you could wet a Q-tip with some water and shake out the extra and then just moisten the shell where he is stuck? Maybe do it a couple times so he can get out? If not, perhaps it is something you wouldn't want to allow to breed as he apparently is not strong enough to molt his shell completely... unless there are other circumstances that have prevented it.
 
Maybe you could wet a Q-tip with some water and shake out the extra and then just moisten the shell where he is stuck? Maybe do it a couple times so he can get out? If not, perhaps it is something you wouldn't want to allow to breed as he apparently is not strong enough to molt his shell completely... unless there are other circumstances that have prevented it.
Thank you for the suggestion Lacy. He is deformed in other ways too. I couldn't understand why he couldn't hold himself upright at all. He was always on his back, and when I would turn him over, he would fall right back over. But it wasn't like the other beetles. I took a closer look at him and I can only find three legs. Two on one side, and one on the other. He also doesn't seam to have any wings. I don't think he will ever breed, and I just don't want him suffering. I haven't checked on him yet this morning but unless he had a little bug miracle, he's chicken food.
 
I've enjoyed the posts.. lately..
thanks for posting the strainer.. I"m hoping to find one.. that will let the bran fall thru..

I'm also having deformed beatles.. and those who die when .. ? changing to beetle form.

I decreased the humidity . due to some mold problems.. and that's when the deform one's showed up..
I wonder if there is a corralation..
I saw a post earlier from kassandra.. regarding .humidity - helping to molt.
she said its a delicate balance..
I've started putting empty card board boxes.. with loosely rolled news papers .. in the box.. for them to crawl on..
-- I spray the news papers.. ( for humidity ) and hopefully .. this will allow some.. humidity .. but not let it get too much..

any input here...??
I think part of the problem. I had was.. ( inexperience.. ; ) food( carrots. and apple. got burried..
I had a busy week that i did not sift thru them and - they breath and excrete.. under the surface.. ( like our birds do in the coop > whc increases humidity)
and with out turning the bran.. it just got moist at the bottom and molded..



Havent figured out what i could be doing to produce the deformity's.. i have quite a few.. but I did get 8000.
I thought that was a lot till i saw "onafixd"


Some of the pupae do not form into full beetles.
Go back to Page 1, there's a lovely list there. :) :)
(Says she who just restarted AGAIN with 40,000 worms...)
I am curious. I hope you dont mind a few questions..
Like... .how you keep 40,000
all in one housing unit?.. or several.. (any photo's?)

also.. how many chickens do you feed out of this #..

I was thinking if i did this again .. i would sort some to start.. and hold several batches to try and coordinate different maturation times..
what do you do.. with yours.. ?

thanks.. for your experience.
 
LOL...I feed a ravenous flock of piggish young Serama, and toss extras to the banty Orpingtons and my half-dozen large fowl hens. :) All in, about fifty? Depends on who hatched what this morning...

The rest are for beetles, to try and keep the whole thing *going* this winter--last winter I got cleaned out by a smartypants Serama hen that showed her mob where the Fountain Of MmmmYUM was!

Many units--wide, flat, long rubbermaid containers in which I really need to either drill holes or take the tops off so they will dry OUT. Maybe slap together a rack that the boxes will slide into, screened to keep out the Ravenous Bugblatter Beasties....That's the method I'd most like to wind up using to make it easier to slide them in and out, maintain, feed, etc.
 
Beetlemania folks....Don't spend the time trying to save each one. Trust me, there are LOTS of beetles in the world that mature just fine! Feed out the deformed ones and keep the ones that did well under your conditions. (And yes, I tried at first too...lol...harden your heart and cull!!)
 

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