Meaty Birds grain/soy free diet, FINNISHING DIET!! last 5 weeks

[U_Stormcrow]

If there’s something superior to grocery dried split peas that comes in 5 lb bags or less, please post a specific brand name/ link/ image if you could. I like bumping up their protein, and I’m happy to use more plant protein when it makes sense.

Its a 40 min drive for me to a grocery store w/ NO selection, so I understand where you are coming from. If you have a decent "Middle Eastern" (a term almost offensively broad) section in your grocery store, or better, a local grocery that specializes in ethnic ingredients from that broad geographic region, you have a very decent chance of finding split yellow peas. I don't understand what it is w/ the US and its fixation on green peas. May also find them in the "Mexican" (ditto) section, under the Goya label.

You can also try any of the "cowpeas" or "field peas" for variation, nutritionally very similar. Such as "Black eyed" or "Purple Hull" peas. Navy beans. Pinto beans. Lentils. Avoid the dark skinned beans (kidney, etc). Garbanzos/Chickpeas are close too, but there are enough differences they usually get a separate listing in nutrition tables.

[Edit - I wonder if big Grocers across the pond have an "American" section w/ premade hamburgers, hot dog's that dare not call themselves sausages, and frozen microwave dinners?]

 

[Mother of Chaos]

Its a 40 min drive for me to a grocery store w/ NO selection, so I understand where you are coming from. If you have a decent "Middle Eastern" (a term almost offensively broad) section in your grocery store, or better, a local grocery that specializes in ethnic ingredients from that broad geographic region, you have a very decent chance of finding split yellow peas. I don't understand what it is w/ the US and its fixation on green peas. May also find them in the "Mexican" (ditto) section, under the Goya label.

You can also try any of the "cowpeas" or "field peas" for variation, nutritionally very similar. Such as "Black eyed" or "Purple Hull" peas. Navy beans. Pinto beans. Lentils. Avoid the dark skinned beans (kidney, etc). Garbanzos/Chickpeas are close too, but there are enough differences they usually get a separate listing in nutrition tables.

[Edit - I wonder if big Grocers across the pond have an "American" section w/ premade hamburgers, hot dog's that dare not call themselves sausages, and frozen microwave dinners?]

Thanks for the guidelines! I have some lentils in the pantry. Any preference for red vs other lentils?

I grew up being served black-eyed peas and hating them. But there’s definitely no shortage of dried black-eyed peas around here, so I will definitely give that a try.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Thanks for the guidelines! I have some lentils in the pantry. Any preference for red vs other lentils?

I grew up being served black-eyed peas and hating them. But there’s definitely no shortage of dried black-eyed peas around here, so I will definitely give that a try.

Color is often an indicator of tannins, and certain other antinutritional factors. Where you have the choice, but no time to research, favor the lighter option.

I was served black-eyed peas when i was five or six and had a very vivid imagination (already a voracious reader at that point). I saw a plate of eye balls staring up at me, immediately burst into tears, and to this day I still can't eat them. Also, there's a "texture" thing.

Thankfully, our birds don't share our capacity to imagine.

 

[Mother of Chaos]

Color is often an indicator of tannins, and certain other antinutritional factors. Where you have the choice, but no time to research, favor the lighter option.

I was served black-eyed peas when i was five or six and had a very vivid imagination (already a voracious reader at that point). I saw a plate of eye balls staring up at me, immediately burst into tears, and to this day I still can't eat them. Also, there's a "texture" thing.

Thankfully, our birds don't share our capacity to imagine.

Thanks, good info.

 

[NatJ]

[Edit - I wonder if big Grocers across the pond have an "American" section w/ premade hamburgers, hot dog's that dare not call themselves sausages, and frozen microwave dinners?]

I was in one store in the USA that had aisles for foods from different parts of the world, and there was one of "American" food. I don't remember the exact details, but yes similar to what you suggest.

I think it might have been one of this chain:
https://www.lotteplaza.com/ourStory

 

[MarketGardener]

Chickens are usually pretty good at self-regulating calcium consumption.

It is probably safe enough to put out a dish of oyster shell and see whether they choose to eat it or not. I don't know specifically about ground bones, but you might also be able to offer that and let them make their own choice. I doubt they would overeat to the point of causing serious harm, even if they might eat an amount that is not quite optimal.

tell that to my rooster! if i put a bowl of grit or shell in he assumes he has to just eat that ! to the point he has stones in his cockcadoodledoo spitting out hes daft and gets too happy so i spread it in the dirt so they have to find it lol

 

[NatJ]

tell that to my rooster! if i put a bowl of grit or shell in he assumes he has to just eat that ! to the point he has stones in his cockcadoodledoo spitting out hes daft and gets too happy so i spread it in the dirt so they have to find it lol

There is a reason I said chickens are "usually" good at self-regulating, not "always" good at it!

In general, if a dish of something is always available, chickens tend to take it as they need it. If it is sometimes there and sometimes not, they are more likely to eat a lot when they do have it. There seem to always be some exceptions when dealing with chickens, and of course you have to put it in at some point before it can be "always" available, but that is what happens with most chickens in most situations.