MG or CRD or....?

[tiki244]

OK I just read the treatment of the crd birds and I am scared.I had some problems with my birds sneezing and rattling at one time and they have been on antibiotics twice. I have read a book about chicken disease and never did figure out what was wrong. Although Terrymiacin did seem to help them. I had one at the vet and he did not do any tests. What are the symptoms and signs of CRD and MG?
It is so hard to know what is wrong when there seem to be so many possibilities

 

[BlueMoon]

Chronic Respiratory Disease? What's MG? Thanks

I absolutely agree about not being able to identify, especially when Chronic Respiratory is reportable in some states.

 

[dlhunicorn]

This is what I suggest:
http://www.afn.org/~poultry/newsletr/1996/psep96.pdf
Chicken Medications
by Dr. James Barton and Clarence Gillihan
(excerpt)
".....Bacterial Diseases:
Purchase a bottle of Tylan 50 and several 3cc
syringes with 25 to 30 gauge 1/2" needles. Give your hen 1 to 1 1/2 cc. of Tylan under the skin of the neck .........Continue daily injections for three days but not more than five. Withdrawal time is one month. Tylan does not have much activity against coccidia, but it is very good against Mycoplasma bacteria which is responsible for some respiratory diseases.

To inject Tylan 50, pull the hens feathers back
to reveal the skin on base of the the neck on her back.
Lift the skin up and insert the needle gentlty but firmly into the skin just far enough to allow the Tylan to be injected. You will be able to feel it. Be careful that you do not inject yourself. Make certain that you do not push the needle through the skin and out again not injecting
at all...........................
Because Tylan is so powerful, it is recommended
that you purchase some Beneficial Bird Bacteria
and feed it to your chicken after she recovers.
Tylan wipes out all the benficial bacteria that is normally present in a chickens digestive system. Also, Tylan can kill skin cells near the site of the injection so you should not use anything stronger than Tylan 50 - a stronger variety, Tylan-200 is also available at your local feed store, but this will likely do more harm than good.
When purchasing syringes, get them from a
local drug store. The 'human' grade needles are a little sharper than the vetrinary grade. The cost is about the same and your hen will thank you...."

 

[Carole AM]

Good luck. I had it bad last year and lost a lot of my special birds. The only way to know for sure is a necropsy. I tried treatment, but it didn't work for me. So sorry.

 

[therealsilkiechick]

where can u buy Tylan and Beneficial Bird Bacteria? do u know of a site online or if tsc sells it? i know our feedstores don't carry them.
thanks,
silkie

 

[tiki244]

A favorite pigeon supply catalog carrys all those meds. Foys Pigeon - you can get a catalog by filling out app on their website Farm and Fleet has beneficial bacteria its called probios they also have Vitamin and electrolyte supplements

 

[Carole AM]

TSC has Tylan......I got the injectable.

How are your birds? I found that IF thats what it is, they either die quickly, or suffer for a long time with the sneezing, etc.

 

[tiki244]

The birds seemed ok when i took them off terramycin but they seem to always be getting sickand it may be the same thing over and over I dont know how they feel but some are sneezing again, o jeez I feel so bad, I better get Tylan
What is Tsg? Will Tylan take care of it. I dont have to cull them all do I. I dont even know what they have but last summer quite a few died maybe 40% I have pigeons with my chickens is that a concern for diseases?

 

[dlhunicorn]

I would suggest you house your pigeons separate from your poultry... here below an excerpt from Florida univ. Extension on Pigeons and livestock:

".....Pigeons have been long associated with disease organisms transmissible to humans and livestock. These include: 13 bacterial diseases including salmonellosis ( Salmonella food poisoning), fowl typhoid, paratyphoid, pasteurellosis , streptococcosis , and tuberculosis ; five fungal diseases including aspergillosis, blastomycosis and histoplasmosis ; six protozoan diseases including toxoplasmosis and coccidiosis; chlamydiosis ; the rickettsial disease Q Fever; eight viral diseases including eastern equine and St. Louis encephalitis, Newcastle disease and fowl pox of poultry; the tapeworms in the genus Taenia, Davainea proglottina, and Railletina tetragona ; four genera of parasitic nematodes of poultry including Tetramares (2 sp.), Capillaria (5 sp.), and Acuaria spiralis ; and 14 parasitic flukes of poultry, livestock, and humans.

Pigeons are generally a more serious disease vector to livestock, especially poultry and egg producers, than to humans. Still, the presence of pigeons where food is prepared or people eat-such as picnic areas and outdoor restaurants-should be a cause for concern about the spread of Salmonella bacteria. ....."

 

[tiki244]

Well OMgosh !!!!! NOT GOOD!!!! Thank You Unicorn . No wonder I have been having problems. I must move or get rid of pidgeons . My poor chickens. I suppose I should treat my chickens for bacterial disease and worm them?????