Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

Congratulations to Jamie and her growing twins. As much as I love being a father I am glad I got to ease into it one child at a time. Hope's oldest son and his wife had twin girls months ago and if Hope didn't help everyday they would be up the proverbial creek.

I would like to thank all of you for your efforts with regard the the Michigan Right To Farm Act and a special call out to Raz for his efforts.

As I read over the last several pages a couple of questions with regard to molting, egg production, and light were brought up and I thought I'd share what I know on the subjects. Molting is triggered by the reduction of daylight and if the birds experience a hard molt egg production will cease. It is common for them to not resume laying for up to 8 weeks. Providing supplemental light can lessen the severity of the molt.

As the days shorten hens enter into a "resting stage" in which egg production falls off dramatically and in some birds ceases completely. Providing supplemental light will keep their egg production up. Depending upon breed, hens will only lay a certain amount of eggs in their entire life. Keeping the number of daylight hours above 15 will result in the hen laying those eggs in the shortest amount of time. Not providing additional light will result in the hen laying the same number of eggs but she take more years to do it.

While providing additional light will keep egg production up, it must be added before the day starts to shorten. You should plan on having the lights installed no later than the autumnal equinox. Once a hen has started to molt or has entered into her "resting" stage, adding additional light will not reverse the trend.

One final subject is damage and injury to hens by over amorous roosters. A close study of a rooster's breeding style will point out the problem. He will grasp the hen by the feathers at the back of her head which is why so many hens become bald on the back of their heads. Other than removing the rooster from the flock there isn't anyway to prevent this.

The next major issue with breeding is how the rooster positions himself on the hen. If the rooster is young and inexperienced, or the hen isn't adquately submissive, the rooster will have trouble maintain position. This constact jostling for position result in damage to the coverlet feathers resulting in the so called "rooster wear". In extreme cases all the feathers will be striped from the lower back and in the worst cases the flesh sustains wounds.

While a rooster spurs can add to the damage, the primary source is his toenails. I've found that if you keep a rooster's toenail trimmed short and blunted you can dramatically lessen the damage.

 
So glad they saw some reason....

Raz and Wingless, thanks so much for being our voice at the meetings. I'd be happy to write letters on your behalfs... is there anything we can specify in our letters?
Mostly, I think that the commissioners are reasonable people. They are people with farming backgrounds, albeit at a larger scale than most of us backyard or small acreage folk. Plus they have the burden of being embroiled in the state political machine. Not to mention CAFO and big ag PACs.

In writing your letters, I think it would be beneficial to mention that the small operations are just as important as large corporations. Especially when it comes to topics of sustainability and food sovereignty. As much as I hate buzzwords, they do serve to gain recognition when addressing our officials.

To that end, I threw my hat in the ring to be included in future considerations of GAAMPs and/or task forces. So did Wingless. I think that we have the credentials to hang with the big dogs as far as future considerations and give voice to most of our concerns. And our rights.

Your letters might mention that we have people ready, willing and able to serve as the voice of the smaller but still relevant grass roots population.
 
What GREAT news RaZ! I appreciate all you have done!

Native Beauty - I have nursed many sick chickens with the help of a good vet and don't regret it at all! They were my children's pets! My kids have never owned a cat or a dog because of severe allergies. But chickens outdoors worked, so we treated them like real pets and we have such great memories of our favorites!

Be sure your hen is very strong when you put her back with the flock and also ease her back to coop temperatures gradually as a sudden temperature change for birds or reptiles can be fatal.
Also, since chickens eat from the ground and poop on the ground, I would expect your whole flock to need worming. I used to worm once and then change bedding the next day and then repeat after 10 days.

Thanks to all who posted the charming chicken photos!
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If you hurry you can grab a cup of coffee with me and then I'm off to the woods. Deer hunting today, steelhead fishing tomorrow. It's a tough life!
 
I'm off to Petoskey today. Hopefully, if it goes as planned this is my last trip needed until after Christmas. I did all my grocery shopping for the month last week. All the gifts left are either ordered online or I have to finish making them. I still want to make up a flock block for my chickens. I haven't tried it before so I'll just have to see how it goes. I'm sure they will eat it no matter how it turns out.
 
Opa, that sounds so much better than cleaning the garage.

Do you think that if you increased the light gradually over a few weeks it would work the same as increasing daylight? Maybe an hour every few days? I have been trying to find a light timer that would work in a regular screw-in light socket, but can only find ones that are on at dusk - off at sunrise. I would feel much better about using the regular light socket in th coop than adding a lamp, just for fire safety. Anyone every seen a timer like that?
 
Thanks for all the hard work! I'll be contacting you later Raz to get your info so I can nominate you to the board/committee, whatever it is. I can't think of a better person to represent our needs and protect our rights.

On a sadder note, one of my guinea pigs have a lump on her tummy. Its right next to one of her nipples, so I suspect it's a growth on her mammary glands. It doesn't seem to effect her yet. She's 4 yrs old, which is about middle age for guinea pigs. I hope that it's something benign and she'll continue to be a happy pig for a few more years to come. I know her sister would be very unhappy to be alone.
 
Some one said I should post this in the Mich. thread. So here it is.
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I live in southern Mich. 4 miles from Toledo, Oh. I don't own any birds yet. Considering
mostly for eggs. Maybe some one can suggest best breeds for my area. And how many
for 1 doz. a week usage. I also have pet cats and a couple strays. What are the precautions?
As a new chicken owner myself, I don't have a lot of experience with different breeds. I do have 3 Americanaus and 1 Rhode Island Red. They are all well behaved. We get about 20-25 eggs a week so far. They are about 9-10 months old. The RIR is a little chatter box but so far none of them have been to loud. Good luck!
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I have emailed all the people from Michigan Commission of Agriculture and Rural Development this morning, and got one of them emailed me this. I don't quite get it-
Thank you for contacting the Michigan Commission of Agriculture and Rural Development. In their meeting today, the Commission referred the 2013 Generally Accepted Agriculture and Management Practices (GAAMP) for Site Selection and Odor Control for New and Expanding Livestock Facilities back to the respective Task Force Committee. The 2012 Site Selection GAAMP will remain in effect until any future recommendations by the Task Force Committee are approved by the Commission.
Does it mean that they are not changing the law???
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Yes, For now. The underlined stuff iss the thingamabob that does the job.

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Sorry to you all who previously answered the question. JUST GOT TO IT.
 

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