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which means you have to go see a vet and pay a bill to get a certificate? Everyone wants a piece of the action. it stinks.
 
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Yes, she certainly does not look good in that picture. You can see her eyes are even droopy and it looks like she is in pain.

Yes, That is why I was sure something was wrong with her. Again, after I flipped her upside down and massaged her craw/belly and I also continued to masage while she was in the carrier... I didn't get a picture after, but she was standing up all proud and perky as ever and started eating and making the biggest fuss so I took her back out to the coop and she got down and beelined for the food, got up in the coop, got back down, back to the food, the water, the food the water, back to bed... I am going to get a flashlight and check where she's roosting for hte night, and try for a poop from that general area. I hope my vet will be able to check it here. I might have to go out to hamilton

Awwww...she does look miserable, hope she feels better soon. Poor baby.
 
This is how she normally is... Any guess on what she is?
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Sorry bout the poor quality... My cell doesn't always take the best pics unless you are up close...
 
Pumpkin seeds are considered an excellent natural wormer.

Just a cautionary note, while many hawks overwinter, a great number of raptors are migratory. As September ends and October rolls around you can expect the number of hawks you see increasing. Hawks and eagles move south in stages. They will travel south for a distance, stop for a few days and then continue southward. Your free ranging birds will never be at greater risk than during the migratory periods.
 
Thanks for the theories on my predator. I may never know--unless of course I see something in the act of consuming another one of my chickens in a similar pattern (neck eaten down to bare vertebrae but the vertebrae not separated and the head still attached to the body). Actually I'm good not knowing if that's the only way to find out!
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Seems like whatever predator should have gone for the breast meat first, not a lot on a 10 week old boy of course but way more meat than on his skinny neck!

We have a good friend named Jim with whom we have shared many Thanksgiving dinners. He always loudly proclaims that the turkey neck is the most delectable part of the bird. I have often put the neck in the bottom of the turkey pan to roast along with all the juices, just for him. He always has some lame excuse about why he won't eat it this year. ("Have to save room for the pecan pie." "Maybe later, after I have several more large hunks of white meat and another gallon of gravy." "Oh, too full now, but it really is the most delicious part!') He has always even declined to take it home as a leftover. So I think this is a holdover from youth, like the people who reminisce about eating squirrel or oppossum or raccoon or pig's feet or chicken feet or whatever. Disclaimer: having never tried any of the above things, feel free to tell me how delicious they are. I have tried the turkey neck, and while it's edible, I can't believe if you had the choice you would choose it over either the white or dark meat.

Come to think of it, our friend Jim does live close enough to bike over and catch my chicken and eat the meat off its little neck. He goes on the suspect list.
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Nothing in the live trap after 24 hours except dead little Robert and some tiny wiggly little friends.
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Which actually was a relief since I figured more than likely I would just catch some innocent animal and then not know what to do with it. I actually have no hard feelings toward the predator. Winter's coming and they gotta eat. And I let the chickens free range, knowing the benefits and risks.

Totally illogicially, I am not so charitable toward the maggots. I like spiders. I like snakes. Most insects I fnd fascinating. I even think naked mole rats are adorable. Maggots skeeve me out.
 
I just sent it thru email instead.

Well its time for bed. Gotta get the littles to sleep before they get their umpteenth million wind and not go to bed! I know... we do it late... BUT, they'd be up 7, and I prefer them to go to bed by 10:30, so they get up at 9 easy... and a nap later!

Well, have a great nite all. Thanks for the advice on Miss Isa.
 
Pumpkin seeds (we just toss the whole pumpkin to them, they like the flesh, too), Black Walnuts and Cloves -- among other things -- are all excellent natural anti-parasitics and should be used regularly as a preventative and periodic maintenance for best efficacy. Breeding for in-born parasite resistance is another excellent technique to help prevent parasite problems within a flock.

Now, all this said, I do agree with Chicken Grandma in that if you're going to treat your flock chemically, treating blindly is not a good idea. For one, wormers for poultry aren't as broad spectrum as the common wormers in other species. Wazine, for instance, is just a brand name of wormer. The active ingredient is Piperazine. Piperazine only treats large roundworms. It a very specific wormer, for a very specific application. If you don't know that you need that application you should not be administering it. Not only is it a waste of resources and undue medicine that your birds have to ingest, improper use of wormers leads to eventual resistance issues. The horse industry is an excellent example of this. They have wormed on a set, rotational 8 week schedule for decades and now they're seeing some major resistance issues to some of the main classes of worming meds.

But if we're going to go here we might as well get real about FECs too. I see a lot of owners taking flock-wide samples to their vet and coming home with a one-sized fits all plan for treatment. Animals, including chickens, are individuals. Just because one bird in your flock has {insert species of worm here} present in a load that warrants treatment does not mean that all birds do -- or even that they have a load at all of that particular parasite. If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty the only truly effective way to not needlessly dose chickens with chemical wormers is to have every chicken's feces tested separately -- or not dose them at all.

ETA: It should also be noted for those planning to treat ill chickens, piperazine, specifically is not recommended for any bird that is under the weather.
 
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I was really wanting to know some preventative methods as the ones i mentioned previously. I am not treating any if my birds that arent showing symptoms. If i can prevent ailments that is my preferred method of defense which is the same stance i have with my dogs.

I don't know that you can really prevent worms. If a cat poops under a bush and your hens get into the poop, then you could have tapeworms. If wild birds birds are eating your chicken food and your hens get round worms from them, I guess methods for keeping the wild birds out would be the best prevention. I don't know that pumpkin seeds would be helpful. I just test yearly and treat when I have a parasite. Hope I don't sound too crabby but I don't like to see animals inappropriately medicated. We would never do that to our dogs and cats.

I appreciate your passion and your concern. I am just gathering information. I've talked with a vet and the a Dr. at MSU and on both occasions they didn't think there was any cause for alarm with my flock, parasites, or concern. Poo looks normal....except when I fed them red cabbage which actually turns their poo blue....if anyone wanted to know it's quite interesting. All the girls are happy except Blueberry who is insistant on hatching golf balls and clucks at me disapproving that she KNOWS their not real eggs and expects me to do something about it.
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Regardless, you are mistaken. I do not plan on medicating any of my birds unless truely needed. If there is a natural method for the birds I could use, I would like to know.

there are several articles on pumpkin seeds being a natural dewormer:
http://www.thebackyardchickencoop.com/chickens-and-pumpkins-from-the-garden-after-halloween/
 
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