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Dr. Fulton called Amprolium an enzyme/vitamin blocker...

I was writing as fast as I could but he talked fast. I did feel less apprehension about using 'medicated'
chick feed after listening to his explanation of how it worked

I also realized how important it was to GRADUALLY switch the chicks over so that the antibodies can be formed.

Does anyone have a bag of medicated chick starter? Does it tell us to switch them over to non medicated in a gradual way?
 
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I'll have to do some reading later. It's been a while so maybe my brain is foggy. Maybe I'm confusing it with something else. Either it's not synthetic or there's an exception in there somewhere...
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ETA: Would you mind clarifying with him that you remember correctly in the meantime? Maybe he'll save me some reading.
 
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Yes that is a quote as I remember it.
Dr. Fulton called Amprolium an enzyme/vitamin blocker...

I was writing as fast as I could but he talked fast. I did feel less apprehension about using 'medicated'
chick feed after listening to his explanation of how it worked

I also realized how important it was to GRADUALLY switch the chicks over so that the antibodies can be formed.

Does anyone have a bag of medicated chick starter? Does it tell us to switch them over to non medicated in a gradual way?

You could probably go to a website, say Purina, and click on the the Medicated Starter/Grower, and find all the same information printed on the bag (sort of like finding an MSDS). Anyway, I feed my CX's "that medicated feed" until a 50 lb. bag runs out. That was 12 birds/50lbs. Then they go on a flock raiser. The life span is >12 weeks so I don't use the extension math for a regular flock.
 
You could probably go to a website, say Purina, and click on the the Medicated Starter/Grower, and find all the same information printed on the bag (sort of like finding an MSDS). Anyway, I feed my CX's "that medicated feed" until a 50 lb. bag runs out. That was 12 birds/50lbs. Then they go on a flock raiser. The life span is >12 weeks so I don't use the extension math for a regular flock.

Oh yeah, this has worked for "me" for a few years. Probably all kind of thoughts on this.
 
133 posts to catch up on, will do that later. Just want to say the classes yesterday were very informative! met a lot of nice people, some of you were there, and Nancy gave an invite for all to join, hope to see some new posters!!! Sorry Daran missed it, I think you would have enjoyed it. They had slides to go with every talk, so you could read as well as listen plus MANY hand-outs. Chickengrandma, got copies and plans to get them to Daran. I think that if there is something specific you are interested in and they know in advance they will discuss that topic. I knew nothing about Pullorum so the AM class was very informative for me, and we got to test live birds.All in All I think it was well worth the $$ and I hope more of you can go next year.
Have an appt. in GR at 9AM with Soc. Sec. so Good morning to all and have a wonderful sunny day. will catch up later.

Thanks for all the information that you and Chicken Grandma brought back. I didn't have a chance to update yesterday, but I attended the MRTFA session on Monday. Here's my summary:

DISCLAIMER: This is my personal opinion of the events based on what I observed.

Started out odd, apparently there was a mix-up in the time of the session and even though the presenter knew what time was published (12 - 5pm), decided that he wasn't going to come until 1pm (?). There were 9 people in attendance at the session. No introductions of the attendees, but based on questions/comments, it seemed half were representing local government and the other half were small/homestead type farmers.

The presenters (another agent came about halfway through the session) started out by giving a brief overview of the history of RTFA and what the act was originally intended to do. They did a really good job of avoiding giving a direct answer to most of the questions presented by the small farmers/those wanting to start farming. A lot of the information presented was within the context of large commercial farms while most of the questions were about small homestead-type operations.

One attendee who represented local goverment asked directly about backyard chickens and how MRTFA was going to address that issue. The round-about answer was it was a local government issue and RTFA would not protect someone who was zoned residential. (Not sure if I completely agree with this "simple" answer based on the unpublished cases I have read.) The agents stated multiple times that when they get a call about MRTFA, the first question they ask is "what is your zoning?"

A number of questions were asked around a situation of the zoning being changed on a family farm from agricultural to residential and how that would affect the farm being brought back into operation. The sense I got was that they didn't want to directly answer because there are a number of backyard chicken/residential farm issues that are being pushed to be addressed in a revision to MRTF. Getting a straight answer was sort of like nailing jello to the wall.

The one agent did make reference to this site. He said something along the lines of Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true. There is a lot of MRTFA information put out on Backyard Chickens but we don't endorse that site.
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The interesting part is that all except 2 people inferred they were familiar with this site....and that this site is where they got the information about the session.

Overall, we got some good info about GAAMPs, would have liked more definitive yes/no answers, know a LOT more about manure management now that I ever thought I would.
 
I am in Holt Michigan outside of Lansing.. The picture on my profile is an Appenzeller Spitzhauben. Really like this bird.

Contact me if you know of a tester in my area. Email me at [email protected]

It is a pleasure getting to know all of you Michiganders.
Welcome! Pretty Bird! Be sure to ckeck ou the links in Opa's, Raz'z and my siggy for info on the Michigan Chickenstock. We would love to see you there.





To help counter my last post, here are some pictures of my 4 year old enjoying the beautiful weather today! Chasing after her favorite chicken, whom she named Eskaba...

And, because the baby was sleeping today for the period of time I had the camera out, here's one of her feeding the chickens kitchen scraps the last time it got weird and warm and sunny this odd Winter.



Beautiful kids and chickens!




Another way is to wait and see whcih bird lays eggs - in that case its a girl.


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Nobody will buy them for some reason. I have a guy that buys every brown egg I have but will not buy my white ones or green/blue ones.


People are funny. :) My coworkers marvel at the different colors so much that they save the eggs they buy from me to eat for special occasions (ie Sunday Breakfast or When they have guests). Wait until they see the Marans eggs. Heh Heh... I am defineately not charging enough.
 
My Icelandic eggs are hatching! So far out of 25 eggs I have three yellow chicks and one dark one.One more dark one zipped and several more pipped.
 
My Icelandic eggs are hatching! So far out of 25 eggs I have three yellow chicks and one dark one.One more dark one zipped and several more pipped.


Lucky! I just came n from collecting more sap and am headed out to (hopefull) get some chicks. Have fun with them.
 
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