Millet

[Sydney65]

Not that I would consider it for a whole diet but
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ghts_of_growing_guinea_fowl_Numidia_meleagris
And
https://poultry.extension.org/artic...-poultry-diets/pearl-millet-in-poultry-diets/
Doesn't sound like a bad thing? It even suggests it to replace what isn't in organic feed.

 

[R2elk]

Not that I would consider it for a whole diet but
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ghts_of_growing_guinea_fowl_Numidia_meleagris
And
https://poultry.extension.org/artic...-poultry-diets/pearl-millet-in-poultry-diets/
Doesn't sound like a bad thing? It even suggests it to replace what isn't in organic feed.

The first link is to an 84 day study. That has no value because you cannot determine what a life time of millet feeding will cause in a mere 84 days.

The second study is based mainly on feeding broilers which is another short lived project.

Be very careful believing studies done for the sole purpose of promoting something that will benefit the manufacturer/grower.

 

[Sydney65]

The first link is to an 84 day study. That has no value because you cannot determine what a life time of millet feeding will cause in a mere 84 days.

The second study is based mainly on feeding broilers which is another short lived project.

Be very careful believing studies done for the sole purpose of promoting something that will benefit the manufacturer/grower.

Good call.

 

[Mixed flock enthusiast]

Not that I would consider it for a whole diet but
https://www.researchgate.net/public...ghts_of_growing_guinea_fowl_Numidia_meleagris
And
https://poultry.extension.org/artic...-poultry-diets/pearl-millet-in-poultry-diets/
Doesn't sound like a bad thing? It even suggests it to replace what isn't in organic feed.

From the first study, I’d like to know how they sexed all of these male guinea fowl at one day of age! Also, I found it interesting that they brood the keets for three weeks, then leave at ambient temperatures. Since the study began at the start of the rainy season, that would be about April in that part of W Africa (Abeokuta, Nigeria). Daily temps would be highs of around 90 and lows in mid 70s.

 

[Sydney65]

From the first study, I’d like to know how they sexed all of these male guinea fowl at one day of age! Also, I found it interesting that they brood the keets for three weeks, then leave at ambient temperatures. Since the study began at the start of the rainy season, that would be about April in that part of W Africa (Abeokuta, Nigeria). Daily temps would be highs of around 90 and lows in mid 70s.

http://www.lrrd.org/lrrd30/9/askin30157.html
Hmm. Ghana. I guess we can practice w/mine and @My2butterflies I'm watching the knots on mine- out of curiosity,not theory. Several are comebacking all over the place all ready. I did comment on the thick legs on the triplets, but didn't attempt to sex them before they
left.

 

[Sydney65]

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From the first study, I’d like to know how they sexed all of these male guinea fowl at one day of age! Also, I found it interesting that they brood the keets for three weeks, then leave at ambient temperatures. Since the study began at the start of the rainy season, that would be about April in that part of W Africa (Abeokuta, Nigeria). Daily temps would be highs of around 90 and lows in mid 70s.

As for ambient temps at 3 weeks, they went to the coop, but the triplets went out at 3 wks. Once they got to PJ, there was no separating them.

 

[Sydney65]

http://www.lrrd.org/lrrd30/9/askin30157.html
Hmm. Ghana. I guess we can practice w/mine and @My2butterflies I'm watching the knots on mine- out of curiosity,not theory. Several are comebacking all over the place all ready. I did comment on the thick legs on the triplets, but didn't attempt to sex them before they
left.

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Ok, I'm going to check next & next to weight, write down pointy or oval.

 

[R2elk]

Ok, I'm going to check next & next to weight, write down pointy or oval.

I have never had a guinea or turkey egg that wasn't pointy.

 

[My2butterflies]

http://www.lrrd.org/lrrd30/9/askin30157.html
Hmm. Ghana. I guess we can practice w/mine and @My2butterflies I'm watching the knots on mine- out of curiosity,not theory. Several are comebacking all over the place all ready. I did comment on the thick legs on the triplets, but didn't attempt to sex them before they
left.

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I didn’t read the studies, but do think it would be interesting to see if there are any possible markers for males vs females. I do doubt it, but maybe?
I’ll see if I can look mine over and find any distinctions between keets.

The egg thing did make me laugh. All my guinea eggs are pointed And I have definitely hatched out females, so I know that one is wrong. Lol.

 

[Sydney65]

I didn’t read the studies, but do think it would be interesting to see if there are any possible markers for males vs females. I do doubt it, but maybe?
I’ll see if I can look mine over and find any distinctions between keets.

The egg thing did make me laugh. All my guinea eggs are pointed And I have definitely hatched out females, so I know that one is wrong.

I think the one shown looks malformed. I did notice in a photo of eggs that for some the taper from the center to the point wasn't as sharp of a decline,making the lower part fuller. But that doesn't mean it defines sex, & it was still a point. Kind of like saying if a woman carries high or low.
As w/ everything guinea, everything is anecdotal. We know the waddle thing isn't accurate.
I know my humidity was lower than ideal this summer, so I *think* the thick legs is the result of fluid retention because they didn't lose enough weight. If I end up with thick legs this time, we'll know that theory was wrong.
Still anecdotal, but with mine, I've been right judging the slant of the helmet. My girls' always slant low and my boys are upright. That's why I'm watching them this time. There's barely a knob there right now, but they already do or don't have a slant to them.
That and listening to them are clear indications that the goonies are how I've coped with life's transitions, lol. On any given day of the week I could be in Ind, Ill., Mo., Oh.or Ky for work, from one all week to all 5 in one week . From that I went to parent caretaker to babysitting grandchildren to covid lockdown and back to grandchildren. So of course, I gain sanity from sitting amidst the confusion. Lol.
The point- I wouldn't bet the farm on it just yet, but based on current vocalizations, I have 2 males and 12 females out there. That's by separating them one by one in the kennel. Some I can guarantee they're female. The males I'm pretty sure but it could be that they just haven't hit the 2 syllable yet, and there's a couple that were so frantic that I think I heard it but it's in the middle of a long string of screaming.
That might seem a lopsided number, but who knows what was in the portion of the hatch that went missing.
Someone in there has the iconic "FOR REAL!" It's driving me crazy bc I can't pinpoint who it is & I want that to be one I keep.
BUT- "For Real!" was Blue and Nuggie's greeting, & that defies all theory, bc they were both undoubtedly male.