Mumsy's Romantic Garden Advice

[MumsyII]

Ask and ye shall receive

these are the after shots from today





And the before




These were taken about a month ago on the same exact vine, nearly the same location on the vine.

Holy Carp! Do you have both type blooms on the same plant? You may have what most horticulturist's and nurserymen dream of getting. It is called a sport. This is how many new cultivar's are brought about. For reasons known only to the plant (there are scientific reasons) a plant will produce an anomaly. The nurseryman will carefully cultivate the sport and propagate it. If it becomes a healthy viable plant and the cuttings bloom true to the new sport, you have discovered a new clematis. And you get naming rights! Variegated plants come about this way. I have two rose sports growing in my garden. I named one.
I don't know if this bloom of yours is a sport or the plant reverted back to something it used to be. A reverse sport if you will. I have a rose that did that too. Tag the branch that is bearing the different bloom so you don't lose it in the tangle when the plant goes dormant.

Very cool what ever is going on! I'm excited! The Kassaundra clematis! Let me know if there are the two different blooms on the same plant.

 

[Kassaundra]

I will, but it may not be until Frid since I go to work tomorrow and won't be back home until Frid.


Don't think it has reverted, there has been no die back from the first pictures until the changed bloom

 

[MumsyII]

I will, but it may not be until Frid since I go to work tomorrow and won't be back home until Frid.


Don't think it has reverted, there has been no die back from the first pictures until the changed bloom

When you get the chance, try and follow the vine with the new blooms and trace it back to the starting point. You do have a real live mystery going on that is totally fascinating to me. Sports happen and many people never notice or pay much attention. It is one of the most interesting things in the plant kingdom in my opinion. Some great apple and pear varieties were developed from sports.

 

[aoxa]

My children have not consented to using their real names online. I can hardly blame them. Their mum shares a lot.

However...You may have noticed I don't share a lot about my son. He would be mortified to know I even mention him in the same breath about anything to do with gardening.

I take a lot of blame for that. And Queenie should to. As the only male at home during the day surrounded by estrogen, he didn't have a chance. Big sister was dressing him up and including him in the tea parties from the time he could toddle. When he was older he was helping dad prune, water, mow grass, lift heavy rocks, and haul wheel barrows of dirt. It's no wonder when he left home at nineteen he never gardened again. After five years in his home he just did put a lawn in.

When Shadow was just talking, she couldn't pronounce his name so she referred to her big brother as 'That boy". It stuck for many years.

I don't have many pictures of my son in the garden. This one is old.


That Boy helping mum water the nursery plants in 1991.

I don't know why, but boys seem to take longer to really get out of that reckless teenage stage. My brother.. Yeah.. All I have to say about him is my poor parents.

I was a terrible teenager, but as soon as I hit 18 my mother and I were best friends. My brother is still giving her grief and he's 23.

This is an adorable picture all the same.

I also dressed my brother up. Maybe that's what happened to "Those boys"

 

[aoxa]

I love Clematis' in bloom, but hate how many of them go to seed. I actually almost had succeeded in growing one from seed until my cat decided to use that pot as a litterbox and killed it.

 

[TexasLisa]

Confession: I'm pages and pages behind! But I'm trying to catch up. I know I'm probably totally off subject right now, but sent these photos to Mumsy in PM and she asked me to go ahead and post them here. So...I apologize for jumping right in to break up a flow

I have lots of interior gardening items I want to do, but this crazy fence-line is something I want to get some privacy on. We used to be in the country...they have now widened the highway and city is moving out. They put a sidewalk in last year and we just put up the 6 ft. high chain link fence (black).

I want something that will give privacy in WINTER as well as summer. I'm hoping to find something that keeps foliage but doesn't have huge thorns. Probably asking too much.

Most of the spruces here die from the bottom up so that's probably not a good option even though I do like spruces. (They do make a good privacy and can be a good backdrop for some pretty items in front if you can keep them healthy.) In the first photo you can see spruces across the street that they had to trim up due, likely to salt spray from the snow plows during the winter.


Photos: From inside out.



From outside in.



Another view from outside in.



Any thoughts would be appreciated!


Thanks so much...and LOVE the thread

I love that fence! Have you considered Oleanders? There are several businesses in town that have these surrounding their place and they are beautiful.

Lisa

 

[TexasLisa]

Osage orange is not familiar to me. I would like to hear more about this too. The Cleome is beautiful. I've never grown that. Lovely.

Osage Orange is also known as Bodock, Hedge Apples, bowwood, fence shrub, hedge, hedge-apple, hedge-orange, horse-apple, mockorange, naranjo chino, and postwood. I know this because when I lived in Indiana we had over a dozen of these trees in my front yard! I loved these trees because of their shade, height, and the way they grew. Settlers used to plant these for a fence line or corral. They would intertwine and would keep the cows in or predators out.

Having said that, I will caution you on these trees. These trees have thorns. They can get up to 1 1/2" long. They hurt like the dickens if you get pricked. The fruit gets up to softball size or bigger. Every fall I was outside throwing them out of the yard into a pile. (Best to wear a hard hat) The squirrels and deer loved them.

The wood is beautiful to carve with. It changes color as it gets older. My dh made me a cane out of it.

Mumsy I didn't mean to take your place--sorry.

Lisa

 

[Reina Rana]

Wonderful, Mumsy!

<3

 

[TexasLisa]

Osage orange is not familiar to me. I would like to hear more about this too. The Cleome is beautiful. I've never grown that. Lovely.

I tried to edit and it double-posted. Sorry, but this one has pictures.

Osage Orange is also known as Bodock, Hedge Apples, bowwood, fence shrub, hedge, hedge-apple, hedge-orange, horse-apple, mockorange, naranjo chino, and postwood. I know this because when I lived in Indiana we had over a dozen of these trees in my front yard! I loved these trees because of their shade, height, and the way they grew. Settlers used to plant these for a fence line or corral. They would intertwine and would keep the cows in or predators out.


Having said that, I will caution you on these trees. These trees have thorns. They can get up to 1 1/2" long. They hurt like the dickens if you get pricked. The fruit gets up to softball size or bigger. Every fall I was outside throwing them out of the yard into a pile. (Best to wear a hard hat) The squirrels and deer loved them.


The wood is beautiful to carve with. It changes color as it gets older. My dh made me a cane out of it.

Mumsy I didn't mean to take your place--sorry.

Lisa

 

[Leahs Mom]

TL: I'll have to look up Oleanders...I don't know what they are!

Mumsy - I never thought of IVY. I think I'm going to contact one of the local nurseries and see what ivy we have in our area that would remain hardy and green on an open fenceline like that. If we have something, that would be a wonderful backdrop. Then if I wanted to add other things along the front to make it a little prettier I could... or not!