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http://www.animalhealth.bayer.com/5161.0.html
"- Retinal Toxicity in Cats
It is well known that old quinolones, such as nalidixic acid, may affect the eye as a potential target organ (6). In this connection alteration of the lens or melanin-containing eye tissues (retina, iris, ciliary body) have been reported from human medicine.
As a matter of precaution Baytril therefore has been evaluated in ophthalmoscopic and histopathological studies on laboratory animals, dogs, and cats. Those toxicological studies with repeated administration of high doses did not reveal any evidence of unwanted effects on the eyes of the animals examined.
Sporadic reports of blindness in cats previously treated with Baytril, however, have been received mainly from the US in the last few years. In an additional safety study on cats Baytril was given over 3 weeks at different doses (5, 20, 50 mg/kg body weight) once daily. No adverse effects were observed in cats that received 5 mg Baytril per kg body weight. The administration of doses of 20 mg/kg body weight or greater caused salivation, vomition and depression and additionally resulted in mild to severe fundic lesions on ophthalmologic examination, changes in electroretinograms (including blindness) and diffuse light microscopic alterations.
It has therefore been recommended to treat cats with Baytril at daily doses not exceeding 5 mg/kg b.w., which is the officially registered dose in most countries of the world.
In contrast to cats there is no evidence that visual alterations can also occur in other species, e.g. dogs."

-Kathy
That´s really interesting. I´m not so sure the vets here know these things. Baytril is widely used. For example, the gov does a neutering campaign now and agin for female cats and dogs. They all get prescribed Baytril. I don´t know if they give the same doses, I can´t remember. I had 4 of mine done during this campaign. 3 of the cats (sisters) have a slight cloudy look to their eye lenses. My other one doesn´t have it, nor our male that we got neutered separately, but they were all given Baytril. The vet guessed it might be congenital, but now I´m going to ask her about the amounts of Baytril and see if she knows this. thanks for this info, very interesting.
 
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Here's another picture. Is there a way to tell for sure with out waiting for eggs? I'm worried about are little Ana duck getting beaten up.
 
Quote: I would be surprised if they didn't know about it, lol, but I guess it's possible. I did recently use more than the recommended amount in a cat that was on death's door, so it will be interesting to see if that caused any damage. FYI, the pictures I posted earlier are from Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook.

-Kathy
 
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One more. It does this sticking out it's neck thing when there all around and talking. Like there having an argument. Don't know if that means anything.
 

Here's another picture. Is there a way to tell for sure with out waiting for eggs? I'm worried about are little Ana duck getting beaten up.
Alice, the pics that help the most are pics from above, showing the wings and length of body, pics from the front, showing the width of the legs, pics from the side, showing the length of the body out behind the legs, etc.
I´ve had a good look through your pics, and although in some of them it looks like a male, right now I wouldn´t say that bird is a male at all. It has some masculinity about it, but it looks more female to me. I´m looking at body size (in this pic she seems to be much the same size as your other ducks), size and shape of head, length of wings in comparison to the body, length of tail as opposed to the width,etc. The redness varies, and this one has a lot, which makes it look a bit masculine, but it´s not always a good indicator until, of course, they become really big and ugly drakes! ;)
I´d be inclined to get hubby to hold on a bit. A muscovy isn´t likely to hurt the ducks.
 
I would be surprised if they didn't know about it, lol, but I guess it's possible. I did recently use more than the recommended amount in a cat that was on death's door, so it will be interesting to see if that caused any damage. FYI, the pictures I posted earlier are from Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook.

-Kathy
Oh, the vets here lack a lot of knowledge that I picked up from the vets in England. They´re really quite limited. They learn quite a bit about dogs, as dogs are becoming more cared-for, but cats are still often treated like vermin, so.......

One more. It does this sticking out it's neck thing when there all around and talking. Like there having an argument. Don't know if that means anything.
It´s so blinking black! If it´s a male more than 4 months old, it should be twice the size of these other ducks.
Looks like a drake to me.

-Kathy
You´ll be its death sentence!
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I call for a stay of execution on the grounds of not having decided its genre.
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